which would you buy?

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by coingeek12, Mar 17, 2013.

  1. coingeek12

    coingeek12 Well-Known Member

    ok, heres a senario, you have $40 to spend on coins, you have nothing for ancients, so you decided to get some which one of the COIN lots would you get: http://www.ebay.com/sch/Roman-Imper...=30&_ssn=maggierulesmaggie2012&rt=nc&LH_BIN=1

    please put the link of the product that you would prefer in your reply.
    if you would also buy some cleaning tools, also put the links in your reply.
    remember, total price (including shipping) must not exed $40.
     
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  3. Ripley

    Ripley Senior Member

    Perhaps the lots of 15. The others seem like a scam, where the lot is sold by each coin for the price not all the shown coins. As for the electrolysis kit a simple D cell battery, 2 small wires and a used peanut butter jar is all required.
     
  4. coingeek12

    coingeek12 Well-Known Member

    can you give a step by step way on how to do it? or post a link to get to somwhere that shows me how?
    Thank you for saving me from a horrible and terrible scam!
    is this the one? http://www.ebay.com/itm/LOT-OF-15-A...826?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2321bf2ad2
     
  5. coingeek12

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  6. Windchild

    Windchild Punic YN, Shahanshah

    Um...

    I'm reading 'Electrolysis'...

    Please try to not use these machines... they strip the patina, so most ancient coin collectors will put a lower value on coins cleaned this way...

    Also, they don't look as good after this type of cleaning...


    Finally, wait for some others before cleaning... Bing, along with others, may be able to help in the morning (when they get up!)
     
  7. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    None of the lots strike me as worth anything. My hobby is collecting coins. These devices are for mad scientists whose hobby is torturing coins before destroying them. It is unlikely that any of these techniques will yield coins I will want. Think before you nuke. Spend the $40 on one to four coins that have promise of showing detail and do everything you can to avoid making them uglier than they were when you got them. Appropriate substances for coin cleaning are more like distilled water and less like nuclear weapons of mass destruction.
     
  8. Raymond Beracha

    Raymond Beracha Active Member

  9. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Coingeek, if you want coins, buy coins. $40 will get you a couple of nice common ancients that you'll be proud to own.

    If you want science experiments, get a chemistry set - those things are fun, and far more entertaining than stripping a few thousand years of crud off a cull.
     
  10. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    cg12 have you cleaned coins before? it is fun! i don't use anything that i didn't have in my house anyway (toothpicks, needles, toothbrush), along with some distilled water and dish detergent....that should be all you need.
    if you haven't cleaned before, just buy lot and practice....any on that page you posted would be fine.
    if you already collect ancients, you're not going to get anything new, they're all common coins.
    what i do now sometimes is buy coins that are nice and can be improved by cleaning them up....only do this is you've practiced a bit first!
     
  11. coingeek12

    coingeek12 Well-Known Member

    theres that word again! whats the patina?

    edit:
    im not looking for "nice" roman coins, i dont care about the looks, as long as i can tell its roman, and i can clean it, value isn't a issue for me either.
     
  12. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Patina is a natural surface coating that develops on coins buried in the earth for a thousand years which is valued by collectors and can not be removed from coins without damaging the underlying surface. It is rather like toning gone wild. Beginners have been known to scrub it off and turn a $200 coin into a $20 (or $2) coin in a couple minutes. More:
    http://www.forumancientcoins.com/dougsmith/grade3.html
     
  13. coingeek12

    coingeek12 Well-Known Member

    wow, once again coin collectors amaze me. no offensence to anyone, it just seems funny that someone would pay premeum for tonning (aka, tarnishing) and the stay away from the cleaned ones!
    edit: oh! it just clicked! the patina is used to see if the coin was to harshly cleaned! right?
     
  14. coingeek12

    coingeek12 Well-Known Member

  15. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    There is a HUGE difference coin geek between toning on modern coins, and patina on ancient ones. Toning on modern coins is temporary tarnishing. Most of the time it continues to progress. Nevertheless, its a thin little film on the coin, and a fingerprint will ruin it.

    Patina on ancient coins is a thick layer of protective coating built up over centuries. Its very durable and stable. I don't go crazy over it, but have bought some coins with pretty patina. Here is one:

    caracalla1.jpg
     
  16. Gil-galad

    Gil-galad I AM SPARTACUS

    Here is another good place to shop. http://www.vcoins.com/ you can get a few nice coins for $40, if you're careful about shopping.
     
  17. coingeek12

    coingeek12 Well-Known Member

    ok, thanks, so if i decided to scrub uncleaned roman coins, the patina wouldn not go away? or should i try and find sommthing simaler?
     
  18. coingeek12

    coingeek12 Well-Known Member

    neat little site. if i get into ancients even more i might go there. :D
     
  19. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    You can destroy patina, but you have to really work at it, (or zap it).

    I know buying "uncleaned coins" sounds great, and many of us have been sucked in by that siren call, but we are seriously trying to just help you. Most "uncleaned coins" nowadays are simply junk coins that are not worth bothering to clean. I and MANY of us here REALLY would hope you just start buying cleaned coins. You will get better value in the long run.
     
  20. coingeek12

    coingeek12 Well-Known Member

    ok, i'l look around for the cleaned ones. thanks!
     
  21. mrweaseluv

    mrweaseluv Supporter! Supporter

    Not sure what your after but after a quick scroll I probably gonna add one of these to my collection come the 1st and my new monthly budget.
    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...akeTrack=true&ssPageName=VIP:watchlink:top:en
    On a side note, I agree with the guys for real collecting purposes don't buy the uncleaned coins as you will get 99% junk usualy. On the other hand I myself like the challenge of "cleaning" them but you get much nicer, collectable, valueable coins buy just buying them already cleaned :D
     
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