A Nabataean lead token of considerable rarity.

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by John Anthony, Mar 15, 2013.

  1. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    First a quote about these coins from Hoover (footnotes and references to plates removed)...

    My piece belongs to Hoover Group L, featuring the laureate head of Zeus right on the obverse, and a bull charging left on the reverse with the Nabataean inscription NBT above. Hoover records only 10 known examples of the type, but there are probably a few more by now.

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  3. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    Now thats phat! i haven't seen one of those yet. Sooo Greek Arabia thats really neat. Great Find Kudos!
     
  4. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Well now. That was not the reaction I was expecting for a dingy little obscure piece of lead, lol.
     
  5. Ardatirion

    Ardatirion Où est mon poisson

    A wonderful coin, extremely rare and exceptionally preserved. Lead coins are often very rough and corroded.

    One question - on what grounds did you determine this is a "token?"
     
  6. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Coin or token is rather up to debate. I'll quote Hoover's excellent work on this coinage again, in which he makes a compelling argument to consider them something akin to tesserae...

     
  7. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Nice pick-up, JA ...

    => a "lead" animal-coin!! (sweet)
     
  8. Windchild

    Windchild Punic YN, Shahanshah

  9. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Interesting thread.
     
  10. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    I didn't expect this one to win any beauty contests, but the coin is actually in pretty good shape for its age and alloy. A lot of 35 of these was sold back in 2003, CNG 64, lot 476, and one or two trickle into the market every year. Here's a sample of the CNG lot...

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    Mostly they've been discovered in Jordanian archeological digs, in conditions that protected them from the elements. Any that might have been buried would have disintegrated long ago.
     
  11. Windchild

    Windchild Punic YN, Shahanshah

    I found a seller who has a bunch (~15) of Nabatean Lead Pieces in Stock

    I've got 1 I'm looking at... any more information on the ones will a bull right, Laureate bust of King?
     
  12. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    WC, here is Hoover's paper on the Nabataean lead coinage at the Royal Numismatic Society's site. It's a free, legal download...

    http://www.royalnumismaticsociety.org/NC_Offprints/NC166/NC166_09_Hoover.pdf
     
  13. Ardatirion

    Ardatirion Où est mon poisson

    John, if you're interested in Hellenistic lead coinages, I have a few articles for you. I'll send you the info when I can get access and my bibliography again.

    And if you read closely, the only reason these and other leaden issues are called tokens are because of a baseless assumption that the Greeks and Roman s didn't issue lead coinages. Don't hop aboard the circular reasoning merry go round. :D
     
  14. Windchild

    Windchild Punic YN, Shahanshah

    Can you send it to me too?

    I love any reading, no matter what topic of the Ancient (specifically pre-500... I'm interested in some things after but most parts I am not)
     
  15. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Thanks Bill. I'm not so well-read on the matter that I have an opinion one way or another. I'd be very interested in reading those articles.
     
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