11th. Century Byzantine coin

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Eng, Mar 8, 2013.

  1. Eng

    Eng Senior Eng

    14th. Bulgarian coin

    I want to thank Chris71 for this coin, he found some of these and picked one up for me...Thanks Chris...Awesome coin...

    Bulgaria...AR
    Second Empire
    Ivan Aleksander w/ Mihale Asen lV
    1331- 1371..AD..
    Type ll ....Wow we have a type ll in the 14th. century...:eek:
    Ob. Christ nimbate, standing facing,
    raising hands in benediction,
    IC XC flanking head, monograms and pellets to either side.
    Rev.Ivan and Mihail standing facing, each holding scepter, banner between,
    str's flanking, monograms around figures.
    Father and Son..
    Bulgarian imitative coin..
    15mm x 1.36g.
     

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  3. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Very interesting coin, but I know absolutely nothing about this era or it's coinage. However, I'm glad for you. :thumb:
     
  4. Eng

    Eng Senior Eng

    Thanks jw, i'm hoping Chris or Anoob, will jump in here with some more info..:D
     
  5. medoraman

    medoraman Well-Known Member

    Not Byzantine though, so you shouldn't call it that so as to avoid confusion. Its a Bulgarian imitative coin from the 14th century.

    11th century Byzantine coins will most of the time be anonymous bronzes, as they are most numerous. However, gold coins are pretty common of the era as well.

    As for your coin, what people should pay attention to is the weight. These are very thin coins. They look nice, but in hand weigh not very much.
     
  6. Eng

    Eng Senior Eng

    You are correct MM, i went back and looked at the notes i got, its a 14th century coin, struck by the Bulgarian's. not Byzantine, my bad..:eek:
     
  7. medoraman

    medoraman Well-Known Member

    Its still a terribly interesting coin, don't get me wrong. Interesting enough I own half a dozen or so. By this time the types being copied started drifting away from only Byzantine coins, and other areas started copying venetian issues. As a lover of Byzantium, its a sad period to read about, but numismatically you start to see how Byzantium is losing its economic power. In SE Europe, you have a hodgepodge of coins imitating various nations in the 14th century, where just a couple of centuries earlier you were guaranteed they would only imitate Byzantine coins since that was the major power.
     
  8. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Nice coin! Congratulations from another lover of small thin coins (LRBs). :)
     
  9. ValiantKnight

    ValiantKnight Well-Known Member

    An interesting and nice pickup, Eng!
     
  10. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    here's my two from the same batch of coins....dig 'em!


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    sorry ENG, i don't know anything more abou these coins other than what you listed above. but they are cool! and as med points out, very thin...i was surprised how delicate they are.
     
  11. Drusus

    Drusus Pecunia non olet

    Both the Bulgarians and the Venetians borrowed that distinctive Byzantine style but to be honest, I like the execution of the Venetians best like this grosso:

    Whatever engraver first etched in this style influenced coinage for hundreds of years...this is my example.

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  12. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Nice lookin' coin Eng (oh, and chrsmat71 & Drusus) ... thumbs-up all the way 'round!!

    :thumb::thumb::thumb:
     
  13. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    i love that one drusus, that is amazing!
     
  14. Drusus

    Drusus Pecunia non olet

    Thanks...I waited a long time to find a grosso that didn't have some detail (mainly facial) worn out...they are hard to find (in my experience) with full detail.
     
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