Wheat Reverse

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by Clutchy, Mar 6, 2013.

  1. Clutchy

    Clutchy Well-Known Member

    Normally when I see coins like this, they are bent. This one is not and the observe doesnt really show anything other than normal wear. Thought maybe the reverse die failed in some way ?

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  3. xGAJx

    xGAJx Happy

    What a weird wheat penny. Not only that, the One Cent is all too thick and awkward looking, I dont know what could have caused this, but interested to see what it is.
     
  4. non_cents

    non_cents Well-Known Member

    The rim looks like damage, and the letters look like a lot of circulation damage. This coin probably rattled around in someone's pocket and the constant contact with the other coins gave it that appearance.
    Keep up the hunt!
     
  5. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    I would venture it was struck through "grease" ( at least partially).
     
  6. Clutchy

    Clutchy Well-Known Member

    Ive never seen a E or C that wide before without the rest of the coin damaged. Thought I ask. Thanks.
     
  7. Clutchy

    Clutchy Well-Known Member

    Grease ? Like hydraulicing ? hmm. Tell me more please.
     
  8. Clutchy

    Clutchy Well-Known Member

    Non cents, I also questioned the fact that in the path of wear, the N in cent looks good.
     
  9. xGAJx

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    and the o
     
  10. non_cents

    non_cents Well-Known Member

    I suppose there is a possibility of it being struck through grease. Pretty much, some grease or debris got stuck in the die. Under extreme pressure, liquids can act as solids and prevent the dies from having a full strike on the coin.
     
  11. Clutchy

    Clutchy Well-Known Member

    Ill take another look at this when I get home.
     
  12. Treashunt

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  13. Clutchy

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  14. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    I thought about heat as pmd, but didn't fill the situation in the whole. 'Grease' is really a mat of lubricant and microscopic metal chips and debris that is quite stiff or hard, and when it is between the planchet and a die, metal flow can be inhibited, but generally the size of the lettering doesn't change that noticeably, nor does it explain the rim. I have no definitive answer as indicated in my first post. I wouldn't argue against PMD.
     
  15. wkw427

    wkw427 Member

    Post-Mint Damage
     
  16. Clutchy

    Clutchy Well-Known Member

    Im now convinced its a pmd now. The reason being is that if a cavity is half filled with a liquid, that liquid would spread out evenly throughout the cavity before it could be compressed. And since the "O" is compressed only in part, it couldnt be hydralicing.
     
  17. Clutchy

    Clutchy Well-Known Member

    Hydralicing never came into my mind when thinking about coins, until now.
     
  18. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    I think it is acombination of PMD and the rev die is failing and showing some ghosting of the obv.
     
  19. non_cents

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