Found 61 roosevelt with black crud, how to remove it

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by mrbensteele, Mar 4, 2013.

  1. mrbensteele

    mrbensteele Member

    So, Today I found a 1961 Roosevelt, great detail, hardly any scratches or wearing but it has deposits of this tar like substance. Iv successfully used a Q-Tip rod to remove a few of the lighter deposits but there are more hard ones. How would you recommend removing them, I just put it in a bottle of water for n hour hoping it would help but no luck. The substance isnt tarnish, at least from the tarnish iv seen, this stuff is raised up. Beneath the stuff the coin is undamaged, so any opinions? I have some mineral oil, would that harm the coin, im sure it would soften the spots?
     
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  3. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater

    You could try cleaning it with acetone (and not the fingernail polish remover type).
     
  4. mrbensteele

    mrbensteele Member

    ok, ill hit the hardware store tomorrow, thanks
     
  5. Ripley

    Ripley Senior Member

  6. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Instead of acetone try xylene. Acetone can sometimes turn copper weird colors. And xylene will work better on any crud that contains any oils.
     
  7. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

    In general, you should always follow the polarity ladder.

    1) distilled water
    2) acetone
    3) xylene
     
  8. Angelo P

    Angelo P Member

    I would be interested to hear the results. I bought some acetone for a couple of coins with glue on it but have not attempted yet.
     
  9. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    And if all else fails.......send it to the smelter, he'll get it off.
     
  10. 16d

    16d Member

    I know Thad from other places, & have never second-guessed him. Gotta ditto.
     
  11. mrbensteele

    mrbensteele Member

    Thad , In your experience with that method, and the products, do they come in small cans or only large ones, i wouldnt need much to test, so huge cans would be a waste in my opinion.
     
  12. Doug21

    Doug21 Coin Hoarder

    I wouldn't waste money buying chemicals to clean a junk silver coin.....unless you want to get experience.
     
  13. mrbensteele

    mrbensteele Member

    None of the silver dimes iv come by are junk, circulated but have most of their original detail. Anyways I just wanna get rid of the tar spots
     
  14. Doug21

    Doug21 Coin Hoarder

    Sorry a 1961 dime in anything less than gem uncirculated ms-65 or better is junk silver. It's about a $2 coin in MS-60-63. Circulated it or almost any Roosevelt dime is junk silver.
     
  15. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    But you could follow the ladder the opposite way. If it is tarry gunk, distilled water would kind of be a waste of time to start with. OTOH, if the xylene removes lots of stuff, you still might want to use the acetone and then water.
     
  16. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

    Dont' know, I only use lab grade stuff.
     
  17. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

    Indeed....and sometimes there can be a polar residue under the non-polar. Nonetheless, I generally prefer water first as a conservation solvent since it is consistently safe.
     
  18. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    Where can I buy these chemicals?

    Just looked on Google for where to buy xylene and Lowes was the first to pop up. I would think you can buy xylene and acetone at most hardware stores.
     
  19. Clutchy

    Clutchy Well-Known Member

    First time Ive ever seen anyone suggest MEK for cleaning coins. Im not here to express my opinion on if its safe on coins or not because I dont know. Im here to say : Wear gloves and DO NOT breath that stuff. Its better to use it outdoors. Its a very dangerous product. DO NOT store that stuff in your house for any reason. If you dont have a garage, leave it in the backyard in a well vented area, away from direct sunlight. If you dont have a place to store it outside or in a garage, dont bother purchasing it. Use something else. Its not worth the health risks.
     
  20. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    Woah there. MEK is Methyl Ethyl Ketone whereas acetone is Dimethyl Ketone or Methyl Methyl Ketone (not a real name but just to be descriptive) so whatever you say about MEK goes also for acetone. There are lots of exotic organic solvents you could use on coins, if you happen to have them about. I bet THF would do a bang up job removing grease and oils, and I used to work in a place that used tank cars full. Main point being - all these solvents recommended for degreasing are organic solvents and have their precautions. Don't breathe these things too much (xylene is less volatile than toluene, hence a good reason to use it), don't work around any sources of open flame or you might make an ash of yourself.
     
  21. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    "Junk" silver simply means that the value of the coin is just the value of the silver that is in it. no premium value above melt. As mentioned earlier a 1961 dime would have to be graded higher than MS-65 to get out of the "junk silver" category. And even then it won't have that premium unless it is slabbed and the cost to have it graded might eat up most of its premium value.
     
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