What's wrong with my D??

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by JakeSol007, Jan 16, 2013.

  1. JakeSol007

    JakeSol007 Active Member

    I was looking for a possible 1969 S error. But noticed something was up with my D mint mark. I also almost thought it might be an S with the top missing. I couldn't see any real PMD what do you guys think I have going on here?
     

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  3. JakeSol007

    JakeSol007 Active Member

    Up to 81 views and no opinions? Or does any one have an idea of a value on this one? Thanks :)
     
  4. kookoox10

    kookoox10 ANA #3168546

    I see these every so often, it's a result of a grease filled die.
     
  5. JakeSol007

    JakeSol007 Active Member

    Ok that makes sense. Thanks. So does that make it rare or common? And is there any value to it. I can't find any similar to it on eBay so j figure that means it has no value or rare and lots of value. Not sure wich one
     
  6. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    Well, if it is in fact the result of a grease filled die, then it has little to no premium associated with it which is probably why you cannot find any information on this particular piece.

    My advice is to pick up a copy of the Cherry Pickers Guide which, in itself, is an incomplete source of information. However, it does give references to more compete information on the Jefferson Nickels Series such as "A guidebook of Buffalo and Jefferson Nickels", by Q. David Bowers or perhaps "The Jefferson Nickel RPM Book--An Attribution Guide" by Dr. James Wiles. Generally speaking, these books "may" address the issues you see on your nickel but at the very least, they'll provide contact information to the authors of those books to whom you could pose your question.

    To me, the mintmark looks to abruptly broken to be a grease filled die but then, I know very little about the in's and out's of Jefferson nickels.

    Try sending a question to the folks at CONECA. Here's a web page:

    http://conecaonline.org/content/coneca_attributers.html
     
  7. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

    I am quite sure that it is an s with the top missing . In fact I have a similar Nickel dated 1969 with the mint mark s positioned at the same place of yours , but mine is fully intact and coincides exactly with the apparent part of yours ..
    Charles ( 7 Calbrey )
     
  8. JakeSol007

    JakeSol007 Active Member

    I have a cherry pickers and didn't see it covered in there. Haven't heard of conecaonline before but I'll give it a look. Sounds like I have a coupe more places to do some research at. Thanks for the help guys. Think ill be hanging on to It till I come to an official conclusion as to what I have.
     
  9. non_cents

    non_cents Well-Known Member

    It would not be listed in the Cherrypicker's guide because the CPG lists VARIETIES, not errors. This looks like a minor struck-thru, and I can't imagine much more than a dollar premium , if that, on it.
    Keep up the hunt!
     
  10. JakeSol007

    JakeSol007 Active Member

    Thanks non-cents
     
  11. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

    I am quite sure that it is an s with the top missing . In fact I have a similar Nickel dated 1969 with the mint mark s positioned at the same place of yours , but mine is fully intact and coincides exactly with the apparent part of yours ..
    Charles ( 7 Calbrey )
     
  12. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater

    If your statement is true that would mean there are more examples just like this one (because other coins would have been struck by this die with the broken 'S' mintmark). Do you know if such a variety is listed in any publications for Jefferson Nickel varieties?
     
  13. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

    You probably misunderstood me . I meant that my coin has an ordinary normal mint mark s . That is what I exactly meant by " full and intact " . Now his presumed D mintmark is actually an s , because it coincides with other s mint marks of the same Jefferson series , including mine . But of course with the upper part of
    s being missed in his coin , due to grease filled die or struck thru .
    Charles ( 7 Calbrey )
     
  14. COINnoisseur

    COINnoisseur Professional Amateur

    The top of the mint mark doesn't look like it would coincide with the shape of an S mint mark. It looks like a D mint mark from a grease filled die. That is jut one mans opinion.
     
  15. 16d

    16d Member

    This may be, what was once RPM-001. The only D mint RPM for a '69. It was de-listed, after being determined it was from a damaged die.
    No premium, but I'd still keep it.
     
  16. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

    Here is a scan of my coin obverse . Hope it works .
     

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  17. JakeSol007

    JakeSol007 Active Member

    I've put it in a 2x2 with notation in it about the mint mark and even a little arrow pointing at it. Gonna put it in my album and keep it. Maybe not a premium value coin but I like it enuff to keep it.
     
  18. JakeSol007

    JakeSol007 Active Member

    And I was looking closer and was thinking that if it was a partial s I would likely be able to see some trace of where the top of the s should have been. But there is no trace that there should have been anything over the top of what mint mark I can see.
     
  19. mikeellis

    mikeellis Junior Member

    Hello Jake!
    My guess is it is the result of a broken mintmark punch. It could also be altered. The only way to know for sure is for me or another trusted specialist to take an in hand look at it. I highly doubt it is a struck through of any kind.
    Mike Ellis
     
  20. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    A broken mint mark punch would have produced raised damage, as the punch is incluse for the mark. I believe it is PMD by looking at the damage hits on the "9" next to it. Maybe a coin counter damage. No value over face, IMO.
     
  21. BigTee44

    BigTee44 Well-Known Member

    Looks like it traveled to the D.... didn't end pretty :)
     
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