1917 Lincoln - Give me the grades....

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by BadThad, Feb 19, 2013.

  1. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

    Let me have 'em! A bright coin with nice, strong cartwheel luster.
     

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  3. therocktjb

    therocktjb Wait, what**

    JEALOUS! That's a beautiful 1917! My best is brown with full details, but man...that's a beaut!
     
  4. petro89

    petro89 Member

    I'm not a Lincoln collector so i don't know a lot about the strikes for different dates and such...but there does appear to be a slight trace of wear on the high points on the obverse (hair, ear, cheek, etc). I'm gonna say AU58
     
  5. BigTee44

    BigTee44 Well-Known Member

    Ms63? Nice looking Lincoln. My 1917 in in AU and this one looks way better.
     
  6. cremebrule

    cremebrule Active Member

    I have a sneaky suspicion the coin's been cleaned and retoned -- the coin's tone looks too pink and bright for its era to be nontampered with.

    If it's only the pictures that are making the coin look that way (the coin does have a lot of luster!), then I'll also have to with AU58. The wear on Abe's cheek is just too much to overlook.
     
  7. iGradeMS70

    iGradeMS70 AKA BustHalfBrian

    63RD, but there's a good chance it'd get BB'd for "questionable color" or "recolored".

    I think it's been messed-with, but using what methods? I'm not sure...
     
  8. kaosleeroy108

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  9. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    If that coin has great luster, it is a 64 or possibly better.
     
  10. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

    :thumb:MS-64 by photo
    :thumb:but @ Pcgs MS-63RB @ Ngc MS-64R????
     
  11. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

    There's a huge price jump from 64 to 65. I'm on the fence about sending it. I'm leaning toward 64 with the field hits but the reverse is so nice I think it has a shot.
     
  12. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    The fields hits ? The one in the hair and the one at the bottom of the bust are way worse than those.

    My personal opinion, it's AU. But I can't see a TPG saying anything over 63 at best even if they ignore the light wear.
     
  13. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

    In my experience the TPG's weigh field hits much heavier than any on the devices.
     
  14. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    You are somewhat correct. Remember this picture?

    linc three.JPG
     
  15. bahabully

    bahabully Junior Member

    I think 63n1.. color looks ok to me. This hits are gonna holder her back, and I'm not 100% sure a tpg would call the hit in the hair a scratch.. kinda looks like an a scrape rather than a pure hit from another coin... Here's my 64RD, held back for a couple minor spots.
     

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  16. gbroke

    gbroke Naturally Toned

    RLM, these coins look artificially toned.
     
  17. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    How did you guess? What gave you a clue?
     
  18. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Yeah, but only when the hit on the devices is somewhat hidden because it's on the devices. But when a contact marks are that big, it doesn't much matter where they are, they will limit the grade.
     
  19. texmech

    texmech Wanna be coin collector

    That is a nice coin. I checked my best is an "F: so I will take that coin all day long. See a few hits on the rim which probably force it to AU. Also looks like there is some "woody" going on.
     
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