Do coins continue to tone

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by bkozak33, Feb 13, 2013.

  1. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    What I have said is that if you store coins properly that you won't likely be able to see a change in toning in your lifetime.

    But that doesn't mean the toning never actually changed. It just means that the changes were subtle enough that you likely wouldn't be able to notice the change.

    As long as air can get to the coin, any air, the coin is toning. But it is at a very slow pace if stored properly.
     
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  3. spock1k

    spock1k King of Hearts

    if you really want to harvey can tone the coin any color you want within 24 hours while still in the slab. :D

    the us mint itself supplies matierials that aid in toning :D

    oh we live in such a beautiful world

    only one problem i hate toning :D
     
  4. spock1k

    spock1k King of Hearts

    depends on the air grandpa. some air will make it tone faster than anything you have ever seen ;)

    you should really quantify what a life time means :D
     
  5. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    My thoughts as well. I would clarify, though, that the "toning source" can be as innocuous as air.
     
  6. bkozak33

    bkozak33 Collector


    what are the factors?
     
  7. Detecto92

    Detecto92 Well-Known Member

    Off the top of my head:

    Gasses in the air (sulfur, methane, etc).

    Humidity

    Quick changes in temperature from cold to hot, and vice versa.
     
  8. bkozak33

    bkozak33 Collector

    So if I were to walk in and out of my house in the winter with a coin, it would tone? That seems unlikely.
     
  9. Detecto92

    Detecto92 Well-Known Member

    No. Do it about 2,000 times then maybe.
     
  10. Collect89

    Collect89 Coin Collector

    There is a well known book called Coin Chemistry by Weimar White. I don’t own the book but I have read a friend’s copy. (It was a short read as I recall). I believe that there is an example provided in the book where a coin is toned inside its slab. Sorry, I don’t have the book to confirm this. Perhaps someone with the book would chime-in.

    BTW, most slabs are not air tight. Also, I believe that there have been slabs that included materials inside the slab that caused toning affects. I give no fault to the slab companies that used the materials because they were just as surprised as the coin owners.
     
  11. dwhiz

    dwhiz Collector Supporter

    Don't store your coins in the bathroom!!!!
     
  12. Detecto92

    Detecto92 Well-Known Member

    I know air causes coins to tone further, but how come the most rarest coins are not store under vacuum?
     
  13. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    Dry air, with no sulfur source, has very, very, nearly zero ability to tone a coin. Storing under a vacuum is troublesome in its own right, so the best/cheapest way to store good coins is in a holder mostly air tight, with dry clean air around it. Also, keep it out of any light source.
     
  14. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    It isn't unlikely at all, depending on how long you stay outside of course. Stay in or out long enough for the temperature of the coin to change, and I can almost guarantee it's going tone.

    The going from hot to cold or vice versa is going to cause condensation on the coin, and that moisture will make it tone.
     
  15. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    You ever tried to create a vacuum ? It's not easy to do. Maintaining one is even harder.
     
  16. Pi man

    Pi man Well-Known Member

    Sounds like a fun experiment. Not trying to increase the coin in value, could I put a silver roosie in my pocket and go around as usual? It's around 70 degrees indoors and 35 degrees outdoors. Would this cause a noticable tone, and would it be NT or AT?
     
  17. Collect89

    Collect89 Coin Collector

    mute


    If you begin with an MS70 silver dime then it would quickly become an AU coin I think.
     
  18. Pi man

    Pi man Well-Known Member

    I mean more along the lines of beginning with an AU in a 2X2 flip in my pocket.
     
  19. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    Page 75 ~"Ultrasonic seal is not airtight" as originally in Coin World, 7/8/96.
     
  20. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

    Regardless of the level of protection, all coins will keep toning over their lives. It's all a matter of rate.
     
  21. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Isn't that just a bit 'bulky'? Like, I can see the lady askin' me, 'is that a gun in your pocket or are you just happy to see me'?...........
     
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