1892 Barber Dime Toned. Condition and grade?

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  1. BigTee44

    BigTee44 Well-Known Member

    She's really a nice looking coin with beautiful blue toning on it.
     

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  3. gbroke

    gbroke Naturally Toned

    I'd say xf40 with a harsh cleaning.
     
  4. BigTee44

    BigTee44 Well-Known Member

    What makes you think it's been cleaned? It's listed as AU with a $79 price tag. I didn't see any swirl marks on the coin?
     
  5. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

    Hair lines. I think ?
     
  6. Travlntiques

    Travlntiques Well-Known Member

    I'm with Greg, XF-40 Harsh cleaning. The cheek has that super shiny sheen, to much wear and the colors are indicative of a re-tone. An (old) cleaned XF is at least more market acceptable than a cleaned VG, so if the price is fair I wouldn't run away from it.

    Here's one of mine that suffered a more recent cleaning
    1892-P obv1.jpg
     
  7. papermoney54

    papermoney54 Coin Collector

    xf40/xf45 cleaned
     
  8. gbroke

    gbroke Naturally Toned

    For the reasons Travel mentioned. The overall appearance and glossy look just screams cleaning.
    Remember, a cleaning doesn't have to show hairlines or even swirl marks. I believe this coin has been over-dipped. If you think about it, a coin with that amount of wear would not be "shiny".

    Here are some examples of various degrees of circulated Barber dimes. Notice the overall look and lack of shine or luster. Which is what you would expect from a coin that has been in circulation.

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    I also wanted to add that depending on lighting and how the coin is imaged, hairlines can be completely hidden.
    Here is an example of the same cleaned coin taken with two different lighting positions.
    It's a big difference a few small lighting adjustments can make.

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  9. LionelR

    LionelR Supporter! Supporter

    Thanks for a great explanation and illustration, gbroke. No pun intended, it was quite illuminating!
    -L
     
  10. gbroke

    gbroke Naturally Toned

    lol.
    Glad I could shed some light on the subject!
     
  11. BigTee44

    BigTee44 Well-Known Member

    Has this one been cleaned as well?
     

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  12. gbroke

    gbroke Naturally Toned

    I would go with a yes.
     
  13. xGAJx

    xGAJx Happy

    the one above looks to be slightly cleaned at all and it seems to be in AU condition, so its a nice 1914 barber.
     
  14. BigTee44

    BigTee44 Well-Known Member

    Just bought it on eBay for $24.50. Was hoping just bad pictures.
     
  15. gbroke

    gbroke Naturally Toned

    I think you did just fine. I am not a purist, so to me it was a fair price. The details are very nice, doesn't appear to be harshly cleaned. You paid F15 prices for it. Uncleaned would have been 3x's the amount.
    Got to remember, cleaning was not only common, but an acceptable thing to do for many years.
     
  16. Tom B

    Tom B TomB Everywhere Else

    The dime has been previously dipped and/or cleaned and the toning you see on it is secondary toning from likely storage in an album.
     
  17. BigTee44

    BigTee44 Well-Known Member

    Yea, I was happy with it for $25. Looks better then the other barbers I own.
     
  18. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

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    I respectfully disagree on AU. It looks to be upper VF IMO, but is surely no more than low EF on details. [/FONT]
     
  19. xGAJx

    xGAJx Happy

    I agree now, it seems I thought wrongly about its ground, and I am dearly thankful for your correction.
     
  20. coins776

    coins776 no title

    VF-XF cleaned
     
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