1997 d kennedy with slanted face and slight off center?

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by bryantallard, Feb 13, 2013.

  1. bryantallard

    bryantallard show me the money....so i can look through it

    if you like at the front of the face there is soome slanting? is it damage? because there the rim on the right is raised.
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  3. The Beatles

    The Beatles Member

    Non_Cents was teaching me about the off center errors yesterday. If I'm thinking correctly, this is just a misaligned die, unless of course the reverse is also off center. Then it would be an actual "off center" coin.
     
  4. non_cents

    non_cents Well-Known Member

    Bingo. If the reverse is offset as well in the same direction, it is an off-center. If the reverse is normal, it is a misaligned die.
    Can't comment on the face, because I don't see anything out of the ordinary.
    Keep up the hunt!
     
  5. bryantallard

    bryantallard show me the money....so i can look through it

    ok first. on the obverse the left side is thinner than the right but when i flip it the left is wider than the right. or is that normal? also on other misaligned dies i have gotten on pennies and the rim is the same height. this one is raised. is it because its bigger? as for the face...this was my first attempt at a split pic. hope it shows what i mean by the slant

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  6. non_cents

    non_cents Well-Known Member

    That's because the designs are 180° rotated from each other. If you looked at the reverse image upside down (rotate the coin sideways instead of upside down), you will see that it is offset in the same direction. Therefore it would be a cent struck off-center.
     
  7. bryantallard

    bryantallard show me the money....so i can look through it

    that works. i see what you are saying. ty
     
  8. iGradeMS70

    iGradeMS70 AKA BustHalfBrian

    Photos of the entire coin would help... :rolleyes:

    Your pics make it tough determine whether it's O/C or just struck with misaligned dies.
     
  9. mikediamond

    mikediamond Coin Collector

    Your coin was struck by a horizontally misaligned obverse (hammer) die. After reaching the lowest point of its downstroke, the hammer die lurched to the right, smearing the design. This is a subtype of machine doubling known as "slide doubling".
     
  10. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Almost looks like both dies are misaligned but in opposite directions. The obv has the heavy rim on the tight because the obv dies is misaligned to the left. But if you flip the coin top to bottom so the rev is upright, the heavy rim is on the LEFT with no rim on the right as if the rev die is shifted that way.
     
  11. mikediamond

    mikediamond Coin Collector

    Condor101 appears to be correct in noting the slight misalignement on the reverse. Horizontal misalignments on both faces simultaneously is uncommon, but it does occur. The extent of misalignment will be extremely limited on the reverse face as the anvil die is confined by the collar. These constraints are lifted if the collar breaks apart or breaks free of its moorings; then the misalignment can be impressive.
     
  12. bryantallard

    bryantallard show me the money....so i can look through it

    ty for the lesson. something new learned :) the ski slope on his face was something i have not encountered before.
     
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