Buying power related to size of ancient coins...

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by John Anthony, Feb 5, 2013.

  1. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    I realize this is a very general question, but is it fair to say that ancient coins are smaller than modern issues because the mining/refining/minting technology of the time was in its infancy? I imagine a citizen of the Roman Republic, for instance, would be aghast at the size of a Morgan Dollar - that much silver would amount to a small fortune.

    What would that citizen have been able to buy with a half-centenionalis, or antoninianus? A loaf of bread? A week's groceries? Are there any historical data that describe the buying power of various ancient coins?
     
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  3. medoraman

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    There is some. We had a thread about it maybe 6 months ago in the ancient section if you want to look. Some of the "best" data we have is from Diocletian's price edicts. They were basically price freezes trying to control inflation. From that you can see relative values, but understand that price freezes never work, and to actually buy something probably cost you twice the "official" price.
     
  4. Gil-galad

    Gil-galad I AM SPARTACUS

    It would be difficult to track the economy of the Roman Empire if the details were known, just as it is difficult to keep track of the economy of the USA over the last couple hundred years. Various times seem to have various values on coins. One general thing to keep in mind and it seems logical to me that gold is mostly for the very rich, highly paid and high ranking soldiers. Silver is for the middle class and a lot of soldiers. Bronze or base metal, mostly for the masses and poor people. And of course small change.

    A lot of coins have values attached to them as a modern convention. Here is what I understand about some Republican and early Imperial coinage.

    GOLD:

    Aureus - 25 Denarii

    SILVER:

    Denarius - 4 Sestertii

    BRONZE:

    Sestertius - 1/4 Denarius, 2 Dupondii

    Dupondius - 1/2 Sestertius

    As - 1/2 Dupondius

    Semis - 1/2 As

    Quadrans - 1/2 Semis

    During the late Roman period, denominations are not really known and so a system is used. AE is used for bronze.

    AE1 - 25+ millimeters

    AE2 - 21-25mm

    AE3 - 15-21mm

    AE4 - 15mm and smaller

    There are many more denominations. I don't really feel like explaining all of it right now. lol
     
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  7. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Thank you Chris and Doug. That's exactly the sort of thing I was looking for.
     
  8. Ardatirion

    Ardatirion Où est mon poisson

    I cannot recommend this book enough. It is the only economic analysis of the Roman period that fully integrates numismatic evidence.
     
  9. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    So let's say I do some grocery shopping in Rome somewhere around the year 300, and let's pretend that the price controls of Diocletian et al are in place. Here's what I buy and the cost in Denarii...

    1 Modius wheat 100
    1 Modius lentils 100
    2 Sextarii aged wine 48
    1 Sextarius olive oil 40
    1 Italian pound of beef 8
    1 Brace chickens 60
    25 Oysters 25

    Total: 381 denarii (round to 380)

    If I got all those supplies in one place, perhaps I would have paid with the following denominations: 3 Argenteus (worth 100 denarii apiece), 3 Nummus (worth 25 denarii apiece), and 1 Radiate (worth 5 denarii).

    It seems odd to me that there wasn't a denomination to bridge the gap between the Solidus and Argenteus in the Diocletian values.
     
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