I tried searching, is there a definitive thread on how to photograph coins?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by drathbun, Feb 4, 2013.

  1. drathbun

    drathbun Well-Known Member

    I really expected this would have been in the FAQ section, so apologies for my ineptness at finding such a topic if it exists. I have good camera equipment (mid to high-range digital body, 105mm and 200mm macro lenses) but so far my attempts at taking coin pictures have failed miserably. I'm looking for the definitive "how to take coin pictures" topic on this board, if such a thing exists. Can anyone point me in the right direction?

    And if there is a good topic, might it be a good idea to move into the FAQ area?
     
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  3. wkw427

    wkw427 Member

    Having a tripod helps keep the camera steady, which allows you to take long exposure shots.

    But I think most people have a flatbed scanner that they use. It seems to work the best.
     
  4. drathbun

    drathbun Well-Known Member

    I have a tripod. I have several, actually, much to the chagrin of my budget process. ;) With macro (also known as "micro") lenses it's almost imperative that a tripod be used simply because of the depth of field issues. Then again, for a coin picture the depth of field should not have to be too deep because coins are for the most part fairly flat. You only need a very shallow depth to capture the entire coin.

    I also have tried a scanner but I'm not happy with the way they come out. I have an older HP flatbed that does a good job when I'm scanning my cover art for my music collection, but on coins so far I have not found the right tweaks or settings.
     
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  6. Collect89

    Collect89 Coin Collector

    There is a tremendous amount of information describing how to take good coin photographs. You may use the search feature at the top right of this page & type "photo" or "photography", etc. I suspect that you will be overwhelmed with the amount of good data.

    If you send me a PM, then I will gladly give you my cell phone number & we can talk about taking good coin photos. I am not an expert as some people at CT. However, we could discuss the basics in 5-10 minutes. Here are three photos that I took & posted at CT today:
     

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  7. Collect89

    Collect89 Coin Collector

    Oh BTW, the trick is to make the coin in the photograph look like the coin in-hand. It is easy to make the coin in the photo look better or worse than the actual coin.
     
  8. Tom B

    Tom B TomB Everywhere Else

    There is no definitive "How to..." for this. Read Mark Goodman's book, practice with literally many thousands of shots and then you may find a good working technique. Good luck.
     
  9. BigTee44

    BigTee44 Well-Known Member

    love the Oregon Trail!
     
  10. geekpryde

    geekpryde Husband and Father Moderator

    Collect89, that Oregon Trail looks positively radiant!

    I personally use a tripod, macro 50mm lens, d7000 camera (all of which I owned prior to really being into coin photography). I think most people will tell you that the lighting is the most important factor, and the hardest factor to control and get right, coin to coin. Everytime I photograph coins I do something new with the lighting, because I haven't really found the holygrail. For instance, I have used bounce lighting, reflectors, diffusers, mirrors, glass (as in axial lighting), flash/no flash, goose-neck table lamps, etc. Sometimes I think my coin pics are okay, and sometime I look at them and think they suck.

    I think some people here who take AMAZING photos dont even get too fancy with their setups, and some even use phones. So depending on if you can figure out the lighting, you could save alot of time and money. I personally love photography as much as coins, so I already had alot invested in hardware, but this is NOT critical to take great photos. Check out photos by gbroke, wingedliberty, Lehigh96 for inspiration. I think the best thing to do is just take a ton of coin pics trying different things, and start figuring out what works and what does NOT.

    good luck.

    1974 50c obv close.jpg
     
  11. drathbun

    drathbun Well-Known Member

    Frankly I did that, and read about two pages of topics without really finding the "definitive" guide. I am really quite surprised that there isn't one, given the popularity of this site. That's why I asked for help. :)

    That's what I have, other than I have the longer focal length macro lenses from Nikon. I have had the 200mm Micro for many years, and got the 105mm for Christmas this past year.

    I am solidly in the "suck" category right now. :)

    Thanks to everyone for the help so far.
     
  12. urbanchemist

    urbanchemist US/WORLD CURRENCY JUNKIE

    i am currently using my cellphone and 2 desk lamps. my pictures have been coming out quite well. the biggest thing as others have mentioned is the lighting. depending on the type of coin or if it is slabbed will determine lamp position. that is at least my observation so far when taking my own pictures
     
  13. 2schnauzers2luv

    2schnauzers2luv Junior Member

    I'm getting some good info from the thread "Pictures Are Frustrating Me". Check it out. :yes:
     
  14. Collect89

    Collect89 Coin Collector

    Perhaps I should comment for the OP on how these particular photos were taken.

    Camera is a standard Canon PowerShot SD1300 IS point & shoot which was set up as follows:

    Flash: off
    ISO: standard 400
    Timer: set for 2-seconds
    Lighting type: set to Fluorescent
    Zoom: none
    Resolution: large 12 MP 4000 x 3000
    It is not necessary to manually enable the macro feature on my Cannon point & shoot camera. I've got the focusing system set to automatically focus on the center of the field of view.

    The coin slab was set on my desk at a slight angle (~10-degrees). The ceiling lighting is about 2 meters above the table. The ceiling lighting consists of a few fluorescent light fixtures. No other lighting (Tungsten or day light) was used. As a rule you should not mix lighting types when taking a photo.

    The camera was hand-held & positioned about 0.4 meters above the table. The shot was essentially straight down onto the coin but positioned so that the glare from any one of the ceiling lamps was only on the plastic (and not affecting the slab label or coin areas). My elbow(s) were touching the table in an attempt to steady the camera. When the camera was positioned where the image looked nice, the shutter release was pressed (slowly). By pressing the shutter release slowly, the camera automatically set its focus onto the coin prior to taking the picture. Since the timer was set to 2-seconds, the camera delayed taking the photo a couple seconds when the camera was being hand-held as still as possible. I only had to take one photo because the image looked good in the camera's view finder. Often with copper coins, I find it necessary to take 2-3 images with different lighting reflecting from the coin & then later determine which one image does the coin justice. [If you're seriously taking photos then you may hook-up a laptop & really review the images while you are setting-up the shot].

    Once the image was taken, it was edited using Microsoft Picture Manager. Picture Manager was used to rotate the image and crop it to the dimensions of the slab. Picture Manager was used to compress the file size to something less than 270 K. Sometimes, the photo editor is useful to correct the color, saturation, and compress the image file. When extensive photo editing is required I personally use a different photo editor purchased from Adobe. You can use whatever photo editor you have available. If your colors look odd, then try the "instant fix" feature in your photo editor or you can adjust the lighting settings in your camera.

    There are several nuances & sometimes significant changes to this procedure that work well with certain coin types. Adjust this process for proofs, cameos, toned, dull, shiny, copper, silver, etc.
     

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  15. drathbun

    drathbun Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the detailed notes, much appreciated.
     
  16. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    You and I both sir. Reading your posts makes me think I wrote them. I have a digital SLR, a copy stand, remote controls for the camera, etc and am solidly a suck photographer as well.

    Its so bad I am begging our ancient coin club to have a presentation on coin photography. If I actually learn anything and maybe get an "aha" moment I will be sure to pass it along.

    Us "suck" photographers have to stick together. :)
     
  17. miedbe7

    miedbe7 Wayward Collector

    A photo editing program to try is Irfanview. It has some nice filters and color adjustments if you need it. It is a step below the indepthness of Photoshop and GIMP but a bit beefier than the standard editing programs. And it's free!
     
  18. drathbun

    drathbun Well-Known Member

    Link to the topic:

    Pictures Are Frustrating Me
     
  19. clorox

    clorox Member

    My set-up is a Canon Powershot G10, tripod, and a fluorescent desk lamp. I crank the camera down as close to the coin as possible without blocking the light, use manual focus, turn off all the lights in the room, and move the lamp around so the contrast on the coin isn't too wide or too flat. I use the smallest aperture on my camera (f/8) because the manual focus preview isn't perfect so I want a wide depth of field, and because fluorescent lamps flicker a bit and I want the white balance to be as good as possible. As for the exposure, I use center-weighted metering and usually the meter is spot-on. With some coins I'll also take a back-up shot at 1/3 or 2/3 stops underexposed, especially if I'm having trouble with blown-out highlights, and then adjust during processing. I don't have a remote shutter release so I use the 2-second timer.
     
  20. Collect89

    Collect89 Coin Collector

    I'll take a photo of my set-up at home. It is a little bit nicer & more stable than the free-hand process described in post #13.
     
  21. drathbun

    drathbun Well-Known Member

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