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It's fine whatever word you choose, but choosing to use "cleaning" as an umbrella term, seems kind of misleading.

I always tell people "don't ever clean your coins". To me, cleaning is doing something to a coin, that will make it deemed such by a TPG. Acetone baths, proper dipping, etc is "conserving" in my book. Your doing things to a coin so it can be stored properly for years, without any ill effects.

However, I don't call that kind of stuff cleaning, cleaning to me is more like using silver polish on your coins, scrubbing them with a toothbrush, using a buffer, etc.

Cleaning and harsh cleaning are both bad. Cleaning would be using some soap and a toothbrush on a large cent. Harsh cleaning is taking brasso and a wire brush.

 

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so after the coin is made at the mint they have a washing process would you also call that cleaning?

P.S my vacation has not been good for you. You are now speaking in third person

 

GD and me are like an odd couple we dont fight

 

in india they wash the coins after its minted so would you call that cleaning?

in case you are wondering how they are dried afterwards it is with an old rag that leaves hairlines and also scratches

since it is mint procedure would you call it harshly cleaned

 

So my statement was correct -- in both instances you used the term "cleaning". Sometimes you use it with no adjectival modifier, and other times with an adjectival modifier.

My comment about your terminology being in the VAST minority of what people use also still stands. Most people use the terms conservation and cleaning...but I get that you like to be different. I prefer clarity in communication rather than obstinance. And, for the record, I don't think you're doing new collectors any favors by using the terms "cleaning" and "harsh cleaning".

 

how do I get them to see the light?

 

As a NooB, for what it's worth, I don't care what you call it, but I find the distinctions in the conversation illuminating. For example, it helps to know that there is good cleaning and bad cleaning. Makes sense to me. I think that's true with everything (can be cleaned properly or improperly). I think of conserving as something generally done by trained professionals (i.e., good cleaning). A hobbyist can learn that level of skill and knowledge as well, but it's very hard to verify they're good at it. I know from knife collecting that alot of guys think they know how to "conserve" a knife, but they don't. So 'leave it to the pros' is a useful rule of thumb. Also, in the world of knives, a knife can be properly cleaned/maintained and still be in original mint condition, but it can also be improperly cleaned/polished/maintained and no longer be in original condition. The pros are the ones best able to understand the difference. I'm sure some hobbyists can as well, but many won't know where to draw the line and will sell their knives as being in original condition when they aren't. That's the problem.

 

all very fine grandpa but thats not my question. how do i get the mint to see the light?

 

sometimes I wish you hadn't trained me well. it gets pretty lonely out there. I don't know how you do it but I cant bother to argue with anyone anymore. I am saturated if they agree fine if they don't super fine I cant be bothered.

sometimes people's ego makes them say certain things and then they go to any length to defend their position even when they are wrong. it would be funny if it were not sad.

wish nd86 was here. he always had a lot of energy


but don't get ideas I am not going soft on you

 

i used alcohol once and my pocket peice and a cotton tip it worked