Hey Guys Here in photos are 2 1909-S IHC---both graded by the SAME grading company---ANACS---and they both are no problem coins---both are graded the same--but the points Such as G4 and G6 are not the same... In fact I think ANACS has it backward---I would have put the grades the other way around. What coin would you rather have----lets say both were the same price and you could have your pick..... :whistle: Speedy
The second coin looks more appealing to me. It seems to have more detail, but that might just be the photo.
Gotta go with the IHC on the RT. I remember when you scored it (I think) at that coin show Beauty too! Ben
Well guys normaly I would wait for more people to give their ideas but I'm on right now and just will go ahead----the one on the Right is mine---and yes Bone I got it at the show---the thing is its graded VF30 and the other one that I showed above is on Ebay right now and is graded VF35! I just don't see it as VF35. My dealer has one right now that he grades VF---I totaly disagree with the grade---F15 at best---I'm going to try to work out a deal to where we send it to NGC and if I'm right he pays for slabbing and if he is right then I pay for grading. Speedy
Here is the link to the one on Ebay---- http://cgi.ebay.com/1909-s-Indian-H...5QQihZ016QQcategoryZ41086QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem If you agree with the grade then the price seems pretty good---as for me I don't! Speedy
I'd go with the one on the right. Speedy, when the coins were submitted to ANACS makes a huge difference. Some years and even months the TPG's are harder on submissions and sometimes they're easier. Btw, on your coin, the obverse appears darker than the rev. Is this just the light playing tricks on me?
I lighten the back photo---to show the detail better. Both of these coins were in the old ANACS slabs but not too old---I would say that they were sent in near both the same time---the slab type and lable and everything seem to be the same. Speedy
Looks like I'm the only dissenter - I'd say the left coin is the better of the two. The coin on the right has a slightly better reverse, but it has a worse obverse in my opinion - enough so to make the difference.
Is that because of the wear on the headdress?...it seems to me that mine does show more wear there... Speedy
That's part of it, the other part for me is that the coin on the right has suffered more dings and gouges - it just looks more beat up on the obverse.
Give me Liberty... I agree that the headress is more worn but the Liberty stands out so much when looking at the two coins. Its hard for me to not notice how clear it is on the coin on the right and to say that that coin should be graded higher.
Its amazing what a little less focus can hide...the one on the left could have scratches that are being blurred by the lower resolution...I take picts of many coins in macro and just the slightest bit out of focus that causes a bit less clarity can hide a ton of small scratches...coins that seem to have few to no scratches in hand using just ones naked eye often have a million tiny ones once you take a super clear macro shot...as it is the one on the right seems much more defined with more scratches and the one on the left looks less defined and appears to have less scratches...but I would wait till I see it in hand since the one on the left is a bit blurred and less clear.
Based off the pictures and the pictures only I am going to agree with Speedy. The simple fact is that the picture of the coin on the left does not show the details the coin on the right does based off the pictures. I think the coin on the right is VF30 and I could agree with that. The coin on the left on EBay is one that I would skip bidding on - the picture does not show enough detail for me get a good feel for the coin or the grade. It might be VF30, but without a clearer picture I would skip the auction or when in doubt bid like I would on F15 coin. Of course this could be one of the reasons I lose a lot of auctions.
just one last thing about the resolution and how the picture can make a big difference...last night I was taking pics of coins and had one in very clear focus and one came out just slightly blurry, no currection or blurring has been performed on the coins, just one wasnt quite as well focused as the other...
