1804 half cent - thoughts?

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  1. willymac

    willymac Member

    Thoughts here folks (Am I breaking protocol by posting so much?)

    Thanks everyone for the help in identifying the varieties!
     

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  3. gbroke

    gbroke Naturally Toned

    From what I can tell from the Breen encyclopedia, it's 3-E.
    Widest Date for the year and always has the break through the R on the reverse.
    The LIBE are closely spaced also.

    It also appears yours is die state 1. A perfect obverse die. A crack starts to form through IBE after not much use.
    I hope I am right. It's noted as "extremely rare" for the obverse and state.

    I lightened your image to get a better look:

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  4. willymac

    willymac Member

    wow!!!

    if it is, what is the range of value for it...
     
  5. gbroke

    gbroke Naturally Toned

    I couldn't help on that one. I am not a buyer or seller of half cents.
    I suspect yours would be considered to have "environmental damage". I really don't know though.
    It does have nice detail. I will estimate between $50 - $5000. :)

    I'm just happy I was able to use the book. :thumb:
     
  6. willymac

    willymac Member

    awesome answer...lol...thx...so more than a little but less than a lot...:)
     
  7. gbroke

    gbroke Naturally Toned

  8. willymac

    willymac Member

    :-( cohen 9 says common....I like the "extremely rare" one
     
  9. gbroke

    gbroke Naturally Toned

    Keep the faith!
    I'm sure someone with more knowledge will respond. :)
     
  10. PennyGuy

    PennyGuy US and CDN Copper

    I'm going to agree with Greg's reading of Breen. Die marrige is 3-E. Cohen variety is C-9. Rarity of 2, Second most common crosslet 4 with stems, without spiked chin. This piece obviously has some condition issues, as do many all copper pieces this old. I see VG details, then I would deduct for corrosion, rim damage, etc. and net out about a G-4. Value is only a guess but something in the $20-$30 range is the best I can do.
     
  11. gbroke

    gbroke Naturally Toned

    Nice PG.
     
  12. TheNickelGuy

    TheNickelGuy Well-Known Member

    LOL! I think you nailed it! :hammer:
    I knew it was a crosslet 4 anyway. I think it is easily in good enough condition to fetch $50 to $70 just as a type coin and for the condition of a draped bust half cent like this is nothing to be ashamed of. As far as the variety and scarcity, I cannot say anything about that since I know nothing about Cohen or Breen numbers.
    This is a quality topic and theres always room for posts like these, nothing wrong with posting stuff like this all day long.
     
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