Grade this Kennedy...

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by John Anthony, Jan 19, 2013.

  1. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    If you please. It's on eBay, so you could cheat if you wanted to, but please don't. :)

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  3. statequarterguy

    statequarterguy Love Pucks

    AU damaged (fingerprint), weak strike or worn die.
     
  4. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Suppose the fingerprint wasn't visible when it was graded - that the print and the milk spotting developed after it was slabbed.

    Also, 71-P issues are notorious for weak strikes, so they get a bit of a pass for that. It wasn't so much worn dies as weak presses. The Denver strikes are much stronger as a rule.
     
  5. statequarterguy

    statequarterguy Love Pucks

    Yeah. I changed it to maybe a weak strike before your post. lol I don't know, if it's the best you can find at a decent price, so be it. Otherwise, I'd keep looking. So, is what looks like rub on the hair to the left of the ear due to the weak strike?
     
  6. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    Looks like a coin that's turned in the holder and is graded something silly like 66.
     
  7. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    Buy the coin not the holder!

    Or in this case, pass on the coin and forget the holder. :)
     
  8. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Oh, I don't intend to buy it. I'm just wondering what the opinions might be. A lot of the weak strikes look like wear on these coins. This one is actually graded by PCGS in the MS range. If you had to pick an MS number, what would it be?
     
  9. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Bingo! It is silly. I've got a dozen 71-Ps that look much better than this, and the top pop is 67, so I'm mulling the idea of submitting them.
     
  10. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    I'd grade it a 4 as is.
    I"d guess it's (over) graded 6.
    I'll bet it was much more attractive when graded and has since hazed up.
    That's my guess, and I'm sticking to it.
     
  11. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    Be careful, you can't judge your coins against these crappy hazed POS coins.

    If you were to crack that coin and send it in, I think it would come back in a 4 or lower holder (and maybe a bodybag). PCGS doesn't like haze like that.

    It needs to be redipped and it might hit the grade if the luster's all there -- the coin looks very clean hit-wise -- but remember with a coin like this if redipped there is a good chance it will retone ugly again.

    Please post a photo of your potential 67s... but beware PCGS is very stingy with this grade on the early Kennedys, and 67 is the top-pop for the 71-P and like a $1k+ coin.

    That said, it's worth a shot! It would be a nice jackpot. :)
     
  12. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    I think you're being generous. I have 64s in PCGS slabs that look better. I was giving it a 2. There's a helluva lot of chatter on that thing.
     
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  14. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    I'd be ok with a nice 66 for my registry set, but my camera batteries died and I'm out, so I'll get to it tomorrow.
     
  15. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    This is one I think could go 66, but I'll post close-ups tomorrow...

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  16. statequarterguy

    statequarterguy Love Pucks

    ms60
     
  17. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Yeah. That's more-or-less what I thought.
     
  18. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    I'd grade it MS64.
     
  19. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    Shoot these from straight on instead of at an angle. angles hide stuff.
     
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