Grade of 1883O Morgan?

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Gladio, Jan 17, 2013.

  1. Gladio

    Gladio Member

    What's the grade of this Morgan? Thank you


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  3. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    Cannot tell from an angle picture, as I can't see the fields to look for bag marks. Can you do a straight on shot, with no reflection? Angle pictures tend to minimize marks on coins. My first reaction would be mid level MS (64-65), but hard to tell as I can't see the fields completely and certainly not the luster or lack thereof.
     
  4. BUncirculated

    BUncirculated Well-Known Member

    Agreed with MorganDude. Straight on pics are better to see the fields, and devices and get a better look at everything that may be going on.
     
  5. iGradeMS70

    iGradeMS70 AKA BustHalfBrian

    I think it's an over-dipped 62/63.

    The details are sharp, but I can't conclude whether the surfaces are entirely original from the photos you've provided.
     
  6. PittsburghMom

    PittsburghMom Active Member

    Are those clash marks? Have you checked to see which VAM you have?
     
  7. Gladio

    Gladio Member

    Thanks for the replies. I can't provide more pictures since I don't own it. I was thinking of buying it for $65, but that doesn't seem cheap. So I'll pass. I'm still new to coins and learning. How do I check VAMs?
     
  8. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    Be careful of any photos that are taken at an angle. Often they are used to hide "problems" -- cleaning, hairlines, overdipping, etc. Most sellers that use them know exactly what they are doing, and it isn't to help you as a buyer make an informed decision. ;)

    To answer your question, VAMs require (a) a good book/reference on them and (b) a high-resolution photo or the coin in-hand. You're looking for small variances in the die used to strike the coin. As a new collector, be careful with spending a lot of money for most VAMs -- as most collectors of them like to cherrypick rather than pay any premium and as a result their sell price relative to their rarity can be low.

    As for the coin: I would stay far away from that coin for $65, unless you like playing a game with long odds and are comfortable throwing away $65. It is completely cool if you want to do it, but please do it with your eyes open. :)

    I suspect that coin has been harshly cleaned or overdipped or both and is worth just slightly more than melt.

    Hope this helps...Mike
     
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