double die reverse Gold Eagle?

Please advise. Need opinions. cant find anything on the web.

 

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Sometimes the way that you angle the coin to the light source makes it appear that the lettering is doubled.

 

Crappy iPhone pics. I see splits in the serifs. Especially look at the f in fine. That's the best I could get. Should I take it to my coin dealer? Second opinion?

 

Ok look at the u in pluribus.

 

I see what you mean, but once again, that could be the light playing tricks. If the the lettering is indeed doubled it's more likely due to 'machine doubling' but I don't think the mint strikes these pieces at a high enough rate of speed (like they do regular circulation coinage) for that to occur. Taking it to your local coin shop and having a second set of eyes look at it would be an option for you, however, if the coin is indeed doubled in spots it really doesn't add that much value.

And welcome to the forum Sabrinacolada..........

 

I've gotta say - for the first time - this actually looks like a doubled die.

I'm seeing some clearly split serifs on "FINE", with doubling shifted North-East.

Closer examination is need to be certain, but this one looks promising.

Do you mind revealing the date? That would help a lot, because even if this variety isn't documented in the CPG, some still may have been discovered, and recognition by Fivaz and Stanton could just be pending.



Oh, and :welcome: to CoinTalk!

 

Interesting. I agree with green in that I don't think this will add much value, if gold were selling for much less (like $200 a troy ounce) I might think differently.

You can always contact a CONECA Attributor ( http://conecaonline.org/attribution_services.html ) for their opinion. To get a coin classified as doubled die/assign a classification number, you'd need someone like a CONECA Attributor to verify, then to assign a number, than it may be sent to a grading service (none of which is free). Given the value of the coin, it might run you around ~$100 to have all this done. The plus side, if you decided to go that route, the coin would have an assigned grade and would be encapsulated. If your local coin dealer specializes in these variety types, then they might be able to help you as well.

 

its a 1986 50$. 1 ounce. i believe it to be doubled. what im not understanding is why that wouldnt add value? lets pretend its a bonafide variety. would it depend on how rare? thanks guys.

 

My honest opinion on this is that light reflection is giving the appearance of doubling. I have see. It on other coins that supposedly have splits...and those coins were highly reflective, such as this one. It wouldn't hurt to send it in, and I've been wrong many times before.

 

maybe ill try to get some better pics...

 

ive contacted bill fivaz. hes in atlanta, which is where i am but i dont think he has a shop here. just a p.o box

 

I think he's more of an enthusiast than a dealer, so yeah, I don't think he has a storefront...

Maybe you could arrange to meet at your next local coin show.

 

ill be sure to let you guys know what i find out! thanks for everyones reply. ive been collecting for 20 years, inherited this coin from my grandfather, and only today did i look at it under magnification.

 

I just wanted to update my thread.. I sent the pics to James wiles, he said it's a new discovery. It's in the process of attribution for the coneca master variety list. I'm excited that I finally found one, and that I will get credit for the discovery but since it's a gold ounce, the variety doesn't add much more value for collection purposes. But whatever! I found one! Better pic here.

 

Looks interesting. I'd be interested in the results of attribution. And if it is a previously unknown DD I'd have to think it has some premium. But I'm just a noob

 

My iPhone takes WAY better images than my USB microscope. I paid less than $3 (shipped), for a magnetic macro lense and it is awesome. I hate that I had to buy it from China, but man, the month wait for shipment was worth it for $3. The image below is the U on the reverse of a Quarter.

 

I guess they knew it existed but had never seen one. So it's "first reported" and is being photographed for the book. And my names goes in the book. That's what I'm being told now. but like mr wiles said: variety collectors don't want to pay for the gold and gold collectors don't want to pay for the variety. So he suggested I insure it for 2k

 

1986 $50.00 Eagle - mintage around 1,350,000. I wouldn't think there were very many working dies utilized in striking this number of coins and therefore suspect a large % of the 1986 $50.00 Eagles to exhibit this doubled die trait.

 

Good point justafarmer. Unless it was caught and retired early.

 

It's official! Sending it to anacs now to be slabbed.