A Coin from Massalia

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  1. Sulla80

    Sulla80 Well-Known Member

    A new addition from Massalia has me chasing down references and origin stories, in my more recent notes post:
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    You can find the details here: https://www.sullacoins.com/post/massalia

    Please post your coins of Massalia, additional information about and references for these coins, or anything else you find interesting or entertaining.
     
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  3. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Beautiful coin. Congrats.
     
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  4. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Very nice @Sulla80. I have nary a one from Massalia.
     
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  5. cmezner

    cmezner do ut des Supporter

    Just a Celtic scorpion-lion AR Drachm from Massalia:
    13x14 mm, 2.251 g
    Cenomani, undetermined mint, 3rd / 2nd century BC

    Dembski 117 (Dembski G. "Münzen der Kelten". Sammlungskataloge des Kunsthistorischen Museums. Band 1. Vienna 1998); Sammlung. Flesche 276 (Ziegaus B. "Kelten Geld: Münzen der Kelten und angrenzender nichtgriechisher Völkerschaften", Sammlung Flesche, Munich 2010). BMC II 317 var(?)

    Ob.: head of Artemis to r. wearing triple-pendant earring; bow and quiver behind neck
    Rv.: (ΜΑ)ΣΣΑ prowling “Scorpion” lion to r. below the lion‘s jaw letters HE retrograde

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  6. Sulla80

    Sulla80 Well-Known Member

    I find the Cenomani abstract lion quite beautiful...
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  7. Silphium Addict

    Silphium Addict Well-Known Member

    Nice drachms @Sulla80 and @cmezner !

    One of my areas of collecting are the coin types of the Auriol Hoard (IGCH 2352) buried circa 475 BC. 2137 Archaic anepigraphic AR fractions (1.5 kg) were found in a pot in an orchard 25 km from Marseilles 1867. ~1/2 were obtained by museums, including BnF, BM, Copenhagen & ANS. The rest were sold.
    Predominantly small AR fractions with square punch reverse (irregular -> square -> quadripartite square -> object in square incuse) so the coins were most likely for regional trade. Most attributed to Massalia, but some from Emporion, Velia, Phokaia and 1 from Aegina. In1907 Babelon, attributed many coins to Massalia. In 1978, Furtwängler determined most types from Massalia with a few probably from Emporion.
    Furtwängler AE Monnaies grecques en Gaule: le trésor d’Auriol et le monnayage de Massalia 525/520-460 av. J.C. Typos III Fribourg 1978

    Here are three attributed to Massalia:
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    AR hemiobol 525-480 BC 0.49 g, 8 mm
    O: head nymph left, wearing sakkos and round earring
    R: crude quadripartite incuse square
    Auriol Group Fc

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    AR hemiobol 525-480 BC 0.54 g, 7.5 mm
    O: facing head
    R: crude quadripartite incuse square
    Auriol Group Lo 37/14; Rosen 3 (this coin)

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    AR hemiobol 525-480 BC 0.49 g, 9 mm
    O: head ram left
    R: crude quadripartite incuse square
    Auriol Group Qd
     
  8. Sulla80

    Sulla80 Well-Known Member

    you may have one lurking in your RR denarii that would go well with a collection of Mark Antony galleys. :)
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    C. Valerius Flaccus; 82 BC. AR Denarius; Massalia mint
    Obv: Winged and draped bust of Victory right; X to left
    Rev: Aquila between two signa inscribed H (hastati) and P (principes), respectively
    Ref: Crawford 365/1; Sydenham 747a; Valeria 12; RBW –.
    Notes: this denarius was the first to show the legionary eagle (aquila) and standards as the main design element. This design influenced later issues, including Cn. Nerius and the legionary series of Mark Antony.
     
  9. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Sorry to say I do not have one of these, but I will keep an eye open for one for sure.
     
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  10. doucet

    doucet Well-Known Member

    Here is an AE I believe is from Massalia
    19mm, 4.3g
    Apollo and Bull
    It's not in great condition.
    I got it as a free gift along with a coin I won at a Spanish auction.

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