is it AT or NT

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by urbanchemist, Jan 3, 2013.

  1. urbanchemist

    urbanchemist US/WORLD CURRENCY JUNKIE

    i have been selling off my collection and keep finding stuff i forgot i had. when i was first collecting i got caught up in the pretty colors of toning when not really knowing what i am buying. i came across a morgan dollar in a box and i am on the fence with it. it kind of has features of both an AT and and NT coin. so any one's feedback would be greatly appreciated. i have not retouched the pictures at all(up the contrast, etc) i did move the coin so you got an idea of all the toning. :thumb:


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  3. iGradeMS70

    iGradeMS70 AKA BustHalfBrian

    I think it's NT, but because it's a circ piece and the toning isn't what most would consider "premium quality", it doesn't really affect the coin's value. :)
     
  4. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    I'm not qualified to give an opinion, but I can see why you were drawn to the piece. It's lovely.
     
  5. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    Switch NT to AT in the sentence above and you have my opinion.
     
  6. jhinton

    jhinton Well-Known Member

    I agree, it does not look right to me.
     
  7. urbanchemist

    urbanchemist US/WORLD CURRENCY JUNKIE


    the reverse looks like a lot of morgans i have seen before(slabbed and raw). that is why i was leaning towards NT. i was just curious because when i sell it i would have a disclaimer about not knowing the origin of the toning. that is could be AT or NT. thanks for all the feedback everyone
     
  8. Danr

    Danr Numismatist

    I really respect your opinion on this issue- what were your diagnostics? I thought NT because the devices (for example on the stars) differ from the fields
     
  9. urbanchemist

    urbanchemist US/WORLD CURRENCY JUNKIE

    here i have adjusted brightness and levels


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  10. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Looks alright to this old sod........Like the toning achieved in those old sulfur laden manila flips.
     
  11. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    It has indicators of both AT & NT. As you pointed out, the fact that the toning doesn't creep over elevation changes such as the lettering and devices is a good indicator of NT. However, the color progressions which should be repeating yellow-magenta-cyan don't look right which would be an indicator of AT. Another problem is that the toning on the reverse looks like a secondary album toning after a dip. But the toning on the obverse is different, much different. In the end, the blue color that surrounds liberty's face and is in the recesses of the hair bothers me. It is not that I think someone deliberately artificially toned the coin, it is just that I think too much has happened to this coin to consider the color "market acceptable".
     
  12. urbanchemist

    urbanchemist US/WORLD CURRENCY JUNKIE



    it's just going to be sold off just like all my morgans. when it does go up i will mention the toning is questionable. :D
     
  13. Tom B

    Tom B TomB Everywhere Else

    Probably just secondary toning.
     
  14. statequarterguy

    statequarterguy Love Pucks

    Mention questionable in your ad and you'll be lucky to get melt. I like the coin for what it is and it could be NT.
     
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