Two Tokens I picked up

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Jim M, Oct 7, 2006.

  1. Jim M

    Jim M Ride it like ya stole it

    I have just found these two tokens in a batch of coins that I have purchased. Any ideas on valiues since I am not a tokem collector.

    First one :

    The Maumee & Perrysburg Bridge Company issued and sold tokens for passage across the bridge, as government-issued coins were scarce during the American Civil War from 1862 to 1865.
    Tokens were stamped from brass or copper; the token is dated 1863.


    Second One:

    Civil War token Fuld MI280B-1a R7 GOOD+ no problems just lots of wear. N. W. Clark & Co. Merchants Commercial Block East Saginaw, Mich. 1863. Scarce town

    Isnt R7 like 4-12 mintage? Really rare?
     

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  3. B12

    B12 Coin Hoarder

    No,R7 is frequent like hundreds to thousands known.R8 is the most common and R1 is the least common.
     
  4. Uncle Herbie

    Uncle Herbie Senior Member

    Actually it's the other way around. I've just been recently reading up on these and bought a couple from the town I live in. The scale starts at R-1 ( greater than 5000) and goes to R-10 which pretty much means it's one of a kind. R-7 is 11 to 20.
     
  5. Jim M

    Jim M Ride it like ya stole it

    Thats how I read it too. The higher the R the rarer the coin. I got my information from The Moneybucks Handbook by Ray Balsbaugh
     
  6. De Orc

    De Orc Well-Known Member

    Very Nice :thumb: thats the 1st Bridge Toll token I have seen :D thanks for sharing them with us :thumb:

    De Orc :D
     
  7. Speedy

    Speedy Researching Coins Supporter

    Here you go.... :D

    Fuld rarity scale for token coins:
    GEORGE FULD RARITY SCALE FOR TOKEN COINS
    RARITY ESTIMATED NUMBER IN EXISTENCE
    R - 1 Greater than 5000 (Relatively Common)
    R - 2 2001 to 5000
    R - 3 501 to 2000
    R - 4 201 to 500
    R - 5 76 to 200
    R - 6 21 to 75
    R - 7 11 to 20
    R - 8 5 to 10
    R - 9 2 to 4
    R - 10 1 Only

    The Sheldon Scale
    R-1 Common
    R-2 Not So Common
    R-3 Scarce
    R-4 Very Scarce (population est at 76-200)
    R-5 Rare (31-75)
    R-6 Very Rare (13-30)
    R-7 Extremely rare (4-12)
    R-8 Unique or Nearly So (1,2 or 3)

    The Universal Rarity Scale by Q. David Bowers
    URS-0 None known
    URS-1 1 known, unique
    URS-2 2 known
    URS-3 3 or 4 known
    URS-4 5 to 8 known
    URS-5 9 to 16 known
    URS-6 17 to 32 known
    URS-7 33 to 64 known
    URS-8 65 to 125 known
    URS-9 126 to 250 known
    URS-10 251 to 500 known
    URS-11 501 to 1,000 known
    URS-12 1,001 to 2,000 known
    URS-13 2,001 to 4,000 known
    URS-14 4,001 to 8,000 known
    URS-15 8,001 to 16,000 known
    URS-16 16,001 to 32,000 known
    URS-17 32,001 to 65,000 known
    URS-18 65,001 to 125,000 known
    URS-19 125,001 to 250,000 known
    URS-20 250,001 to 500,000 known

    From the degrees of Rarity as defined in Scholten in Coins of the Dutch Overseas Territories
    Scholten Description
    C Common
    N Normal
    S Scarce
    R Rare
    RR Very Rare
    RRR Extremely Rare
    RRRR Of the utmost rarity

    Michael Marsh in his book The Gold Sovereign expands the last rarity.
    Marsh Description
    R4 15 to 25 examples known
    R5 9 to 14 examples known
    R6 4 to 8 examples known
    R7 Highest rarity known

    Andrew Pollock in his book US Patterns uses the rarity as,
    Marsh Description
    R1 over 1250 examples known
    R2 500 to 1250 examples known
    R3 201 to 500 examples known
    R4 76 to 200 examples known
    R5 31 to 75 examples known
    R6 13 to 30 examples known
    R7 4 to 12 Highest rarity known
    R8 2 or 3 examples known

    English Rarity Scale - from The English Silver Coinage from 1649 by Seaby & Rayner.
    R7 - only 1 or 2 examples known
    R6 - 3 - 4
    R5 - 5 - 10
    R4 - 11 - 20
    R3 - Extremely Rare
    R2 - Very Rare
    R - Rare
    S - Scarce
    N - Normal, neither scarce nor common
    C - Common
    C2 - Very Common
    C3 - Extremely Common
    R-1 Common
    R-2 Not So Common
    R-3 Scarce
    R-4 Very Scarce (population est at 76-200)
    R-5 Rare (31-75)
    R-6 Very Rare (13-30)
    R-7 Extremely rare (4-12)
    R-8 Unique or Nearly So (1,2 or 3)
    Hard Times tokens rarity scale

    R1 - common
    R2 - less common
    R3 - Scarce
    R4 - estimated 76-200 specimens survive
    R5 - estimated 31-75 specimens survive
    R6 - estimated 13-30 specimens survive
    R7 - estimated 4-12 specimens survive
    R8 - estimated 2 or 3 specimens survive
    R9 - Unique (only one known)
     
  8. samjimmy

    samjimmy New Member

    You have to love coin collecting. A hobby in which no one uses the same scale for anything. Now send it off to various grading companies for some added fun.
     
  9. Jim M

    Jim M Ride it like ya stole it

    Thanks Speedy. Looks like this is a low mintage token for sure. Your Welcome De Orc. I have a 5 gallon bucket yet to go through so who knows what is in there. These two kind of stuck out. Well there was one more. 1/10 ounce Kruggerrand. In a bucket of world coins.
     
  10. B12

    B12 Coin Hoarder

    My bad.:D I got mixed up.
     
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