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The only way your going to get anyone to believe its a matte is to have it authenticated by a respected tpg and at the moment MNS is not one of them!

 

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I do most of my grading from pcgs, this one i had done from a local company, this coin was looked at local coin shows, and other dealer too, under the microscope, we all said the same-thing, it looks like a matte proof ! one day I will have it graded by pcgs ! this coin is very lite brown in color, but through the dino-lite, all of the colors come out on this coin ! like i said, i found it in the change, it only cost me 1 cent ! :yes:

 

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On the 1916 Lincoln could we see photos of the rims and also the reverse?
The rim photo should be informative.

 

as for the rim, i would have to break if from its container, but i know the answer to your question, the rim has i think, two lines in it, and is square too ! As for the reverse, sure, what do you want pictures of ! maybe i will take it out of is container, i have other things i can put it in, then i can take pictures of the rim too !

 

It only looks like a V in the regular strike because of the shadow. Here is an MS67RD from CoinFacts that shows the area below the lower lip the same as the proof strike.

 

The oval in the lower lip, between the chin, does look the same, but the lower lip doesn't look like my ! Your has more of a straight up look, where my fall down at the end of the lip, like the proof ! Also, the opening of the mouth on my is more open then yours too ! :rollling: Heres a picture of the proof

 

I do not know much about Matte Proof but I can tell you that it will be very hard to figure yours out due to the fact that it was circulated. I would listen to what Robec or Winged Liberty say about it since they both have a wonderful matte proof collection. Good luck in finding the truth about your coin.

 

Thanks, it was highly looked at ! I'm waiting on what pictures Robec wants me to take !

 

The opening of the mouth is the same. The only difference is the position of the lights or the coin relative to them.
I have photos of the same coin that make the mouth look open in some shots and closed in others.

It is certainly not a diagnostic that separates a 1916 business strike from an MPL.

 

After looking at all your pics its hard to say that's a Matte Proof. If I have learned anything from some of the people here its how to try to recognize certain things. In your case the edges of your coin should be squared both at the rim and on the inside. I can't see it squared on the rim but it is rounded. This might be because it is circulated but then I would think that you would be able to see some kind of squaring somewhere. I would suggest taking pics of the entire rim of the coin and sending it to Robec for determination. Again good luck.

 

Looking at your reverse shots from your first post it's fairly obvious (to me anyway) this isn't an MPL.

The rims look rounded and the normal straight edge lip from the rim to the field below isn't there nor is there any sign or indication it ever was.

In fact parts of the rim seem to blend into the field, which doesn't happen on a 1916 MPL. Even with as much circulation as your coin has seen, it would still be evident.

This is what the rim edge looks like in the beginning. Yours looks beveled.

 

if you look at those great photo you took, anyway you put the coin, the lower lip is still plum, or straight going upright !

 

i wish my dino-lite would take closer pictures, then i could show better close up pictures, but it is what it is , but, if you look at the pcgs picture in your post from 8:00 o'clock to one o'clock looks rounded too, ( lol ) that's on the obverse side ! I don't think this coin was in circulation, the fields are clear, the medallion are go to ! i just think it wasn't struck well !

 

No new acquisitions from anyone? After all, that is the topic of this thread - not pages of discussion on the 1916 cent.

 

Got this beauty for $29.00 and she is a Top 50 Peace Vam. Going to send it in soon for grading. Any ideas on what she might grade?

 

That is a great coin, Gonzo. I love the die break vams and have considered starting a collection of them, but thus far only have a whisker jaw.

 

Love that moustache! :thumb: Looks around 62/63

 

Looks like a really long nosehair! MS63. Nice PD!

 

MS63. $29!!!!:hail: