Residue? Toning?

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by KonKK, Dec 21, 2012.

  1. KonKK

    KonKK New Member

    Brief intro: Hi all, this is my first post on Cointalk and it wont be the last! :)

    Recently I've bought this raw Walker off a dealer at my local coin show. Still being an amateur at coin collecting, the luster at first seemed very good. Now I'm thinking that this is a bust..
    Under direct light, the "residue" looks purple-brown; putting it at an agle it looks ugly-green.
    So what do guys think? My guess is that it is not toning, but PVC damage...as it was stored in one of those soft flips before I bought it.

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  3. NorthKorea

    NorthKorea Dealer Member is a made up title...

    Acetone it to be sure.
     
  4. ldhair

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  5. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Acetone bath - it'll remove the residue (if any) and leave the toning.

    That's a strong coin. You made a good choice!
     
  6. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

    Definately soak it in some acetone for 10-15 minutes, then rinse well with fresh acetone.

    Hard to say for sure, but it may have been dipped and then it retoned funky.
     
  7. NorthKorea

    NorthKorea Dealer Member is a made up title...

    IMO the brown looks like thumb oil imprints/rub, but what do I know?
     
  8. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor

    The acetone won't hurt, but I suspect it is really just toning. "PVC-green" will stay green flat or when tilted, however, toning is a "thin film diffraction" of corrosion thickness which can change color as the coin is tilted ( longer pathway).
     
  9. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    Agree with my colleagues--it is residual PVC, and an acetone bath will not hurt it. It could be toning, but I would guess it is residual PVC flip storage residue.
     
  10. gbroke

    gbroke Naturally Toned

    Am I the only one who thinks this coin is cleaned?

    It could just be the images, but it looks "shiny" to me, not lustrous.
     
  11. KonKK

    KonKK New Member

    It's very lustrous at hand. I'm guessing that the angle of my photgraphy made it look like what you seemed.

    Anyways, is this 43' considered BU?
     
  12. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    I don't see any wear. If it has been cleaned, would that be considered circulation?
     
  13. gbroke

    gbroke Naturally Toned

    I was hoping that was the case.

    On the same note, are there any luster breaks? If so, it will not be considered MS.

    I will bow out of grading it due to the discussion of a Walker in another thread. I can't tell for sure if I see wear or circulation nicks in the fields. I suspect it's AU. Again, the pictures aren't good enough for me to feel comfortable grading it. Please don't take offense to that. :)
     
  14. gbroke

    gbroke Naturally Toned

    If it has been cleaned and is uncirculated, it would grade as "UNC details - improperly cleaned".
     
  15. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    That's a new category for me. When I collected back in the day, cleaned coins always came back in a body bag.
     
  16. gbroke

    gbroke Naturally Toned

    This is the TPG's new way of body bagging it.
    They also do "Questionable color" for toners.
    The cert #'s will also have a set of numbers in it that refer to it as well.
     
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