what is this huge error? HELP

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by davepalmer87, Dec 21, 2012.

  1. davepalmer87

    davepalmer87 New Member

    I found this hunting through a penny box from the bank. I brought it to the local coin shop and questions were unable to be answered. The monticello errored on obverse and reverse sides of the coin. It appears the errored section is raised, rather than imprinted. Any ideas how this happened? Anyone seen anything like this before? Anyone know what these sell for? Thanks in advance, newbie coin collector, Dave Palmer
     

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  3. gbroke

    gbroke Naturally Toned

    Can you take a clearer image of the obverse and reverse, and try and shoot it straight on? Could be an error, or post mint damage via a vice.

    *turn on macro setting for your phone or whatever camera you are using.
     
  4. davepalmer87

    davepalmer87 New Member

    I will try to do so when I get home from work. You can also see parts of "united" imprinted backwards on the obverse side. Its modern, 2000. the second monticello does not line up with the reverse side. (three total)
     
  5. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    Welcome to the neighborhood, Dave!

    Like Greg said, we need better photos.

    By the way, that is the Lincoln Memorial. Monticello is on the Jefferson nickel.

    Chris
     
  6. non_cents

    non_cents Well-Known Member

    Welcome to the forum.
    from what I see, I would be inclined to say squeeze job. Basically, someone took 3 lincoln cents, put this coin in between the two other coins, and squeezed them together with pliers or some other tool, and left an impression of the memorial on both sides. Keep up the hunt!
     
  7. davepalmer87

    davepalmer87 New Member

    Oh my goodness. that was stupid. The memorial! Thank you for the correction. I will never make that mistake again! Ill have better pictures up in about 6 hours. Thank you all.
     
  8. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    Yes, more focused close ups would help. Generally, with the description alone you give, it is likely that the reverse of another cent ( Lincoln Memorial side) was pressed into the metal in a vise, or a clar substance such as glue was pressed on to make raised portion. If this was the case, the image of the added portion would be opposite, letters reversed, normally sunken portions would be raised, etc.

    If the secondary image was correctly oriented, not opposite, there are other possiblities.

    Jim
     
  9. redwin117

    redwin117 Junior Member

    Welcome to Coin TALK.

    Please give us much more Close UP and clear picture of that coin.

    Thank you.
     
  10. iGradeMS70

    iGradeMS70 AKA BustHalfBrian

    Almost looks like it could be a flipover, in-collar double strike...

    But without better pics, we're all going to assume it's the work of a vice.
     
  11. davepalmer87

    davepalmer87 New Member

    The guy at the coin shop first thought that too, but the memorial is not imprinted or recessed, its outward, I almost feel like I can peel it up with my finger nail.
     
  12. non_cents

    non_cents Well-Known Member

    On a second look, it appears as though there is some glue or residue on the coin. Can you confirm this? It could be what a few people call "adhesive doubling", where three coins were stuck together with glue or a similar substance, and when they were removed, they left an imprint of the design in the substance.
     
  13. davepalmer87

    davepalmer87 New Member

    That is exactly what is appears like.
     
  14. davepalmer87

    davepalmer87 New Member

    I have to get home. If its glue I would be very unhappy.
     
  15. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    Why would you be unhappy? After all, you've learned something with regard to a cent that you paid a cent for. Had you paid hundreds for the coin believing it was a real error, then you could be unhappy.
     
  16. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    That right there almost certainly indicates it is not an error and that it has been messed with.
     
  17. davepalmer87

    davepalmer87 New Member

    would this mean, If I soak it in acetone the imprint should disappear?
     
  18. non_cents

    non_cents Well-Known Member

    I would think so. Acetone is good at removing a lot of things, and I am sure glue is on the list. Let us know the result!
     
  19. davepalmer87

    davepalmer87 New Member

    Fake. Sorry... Thank you for your time... It was some sort of glue. Disintegrated in acetone. Unhappy I've shown family and friends a penny with glue on it. They already think I'm nuts for looking through pennies every night. Lol
     
  20. non_cents

    non_cents Well-Known Member

    Well, at least it's a good learning experience, sorry it didn't turn out like you wanted, but there are errors and varieties out there just waiting to be found! Keep up the hunt, and hope you snag something real soon.
     
  21. gbroke

    gbroke Naturally Toned

    lol.
     
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