Old eBay auction price data (bullion) : BEFORE Sept 15, 2012

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Juan Blanco, Dec 14, 2012.

  1. Juan Blanco

    Juan Blanco New Member

    Where/how would I find old Norfed auction data (on ebay or elsewhere) beyond the usual cutoff (3 months)?

    Specifically, for 1 oz Ag Norfed rounds. Thanks!
     
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  3. jjack

    jjack Captain Obvious

    Check previous auction results on auctioneer sites? Or you can use worthpoint to access ebay data if you are willing to $$ for it.
     
  4. jloring

    jloring Senior Citizen


    Strange... I thought Norfeds weren't rounds, but counterfeit coins...:rolleyes:
     
  5. rickmp

    rickmp Frequently flatulent.

    Toma(y)to, toma(h)to.
     
  6. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Try the internet archive.
     
  7. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    They were rounds until the government won their case against Norfed, I still don't see them as being counterfeit coins, just privately made coins intended to circulate as money. Which makes them illegal under title 18 chapter 25 sec 486, but that doesn't make them counterfeits. But the government declared them counterfeit after they won.
     
  8. Danr

    Danr Numismatist

    It is very expensive to access old Ebay auction data but it can be done. My brother has done it but he had to pay.
     
  9. Juan Blanco

    Juan Blanco New Member

    Thanks everyone.
     
  10. fretboard

    fretboard Defender of Old Coinage!

    The government wants them out of circulation so they classified them as counterfeits. It's no different than cops looking for a criminal who robs a bank, the cops are likely to say all kinds of things simply to get the robber off the streets. You know the drill.
     
  11. Juan Blanco

    Juan Blanco New Member

  12. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

  13. Juan Blanco

    Juan Blanco New Member

    Ah, yes: the 'Wayback Machine' I remember that.
    Good luck trying to backtrack INTO particularly defined 'completed auctions' from 2006, for example.
    Doesn't work, here.

    Thanks anyway.
     
  14. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Yes I do, it amazes me to see people being brought up on vague charges for crimes that don't really exist. One of my favorites is "Possession of bomb making materials". What is the definition of "bomb making materials"? Anything that can be used in the construction of a bomb, for example, batteries, a timing device (such as a watch or cell phone), wire, paper tubes or metal pipes, bleach, various acids, various other common household chemicals etc). With that type of a possible charge, ANYONE that the powers that be don't like can arrested and they are guilty! Because everyone has access to those things.

    I also see a lot of charges for possessing weapons of mass destruction! I seem to recall that WMD's were things like Chemical weapons, poison gas, or nuclear weapons. "???" So I did some searching for a definition of WMD. Turns out they define it as anything that can kill more than one person at a time. Or in the case of explosives anything that contains more than 4 oz of explosives. Hmmmm Molotov cocktail could be a WMD. A fully jacketed bullet that could pass through one person and kill a second could be a WMD. Know anyone who does reloading or shoot black powder? If they have a container of powder that has more than 4 oz in it that's a WMD. A gallon of gasoline could satisfy both charges, bomb making materials and a WMD.

    Common sense tells you this is ridiculous, but if they want to go after you they can use these charges.
     
  15. Juan Blanco

    Juan Blanco New Member

    Conder101-
    Nuthouse was circulating a parallel currency to fascist hate groups via gun-shops & militia meetings - it's stated right there in the FBI affidavit. The full scope of the undercover operation is still unknown (to me or you) but common sense dicatates these antigovernent elements are vastly more dangerous to normal society than al-Qaeda (after Ruby Ridge, Oklahoma City, Waco, etc., etc.) Let sanity prevail!

    fwiw, I also support the idea of parallel currencies ...but Nuthouse STILL did it wrong: his (selfish/ponzi) intent was criminal. He was convicted for that, not "vague charges for crimes that don't really exist." A jury of his PEERS (normal folks, not whackjobs) convicted NotHaus of conspiracy in less than 90 minutes. This is not a case of injustice: IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE U.S.A. (fair enough) THEN LEAVE IT. That's commonsense too, chief.
     
  16. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Get back on the topic of the thread. You guys are straying into political territory.
     
  17. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

  18. Juan Blanco

    Juan Blanco New Member

    Ya I didn't like that threadjack either.

    Feel free to delete both, as you wish.
     
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