Question on grading standards

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by g1rge, Dec 15, 2012.

  1. g1rge

    g1rge Member

    Could a coin with a scratch on the reverse, that is otherwise probably an MS 63/64, receive an MS grading?
    I know pictures would help but i have a hard time getting good pictures of silver coins.
    Thanks
     
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  3. Tom B

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  4. chridular

    chridular Member

    Agreed... But to really give a good answer we would need a pic. I hope you can get a good pic to share, then we can see the coin, the scratch, the overall condition, and we could just look at a really cool silver coin!

    Let us know how it goes if you are submitting it and good luck!
     
  5. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Answer is it depends. When it comes to scratches it depends on two things : 1 what the coin is. With small coins, small scratches can keep the coin out of a regular slab. On large coins, they are more lenient. 2 - the severity of the scratch, meaning depth and length.

    And I suppose you say there is a 3rd thing as well, the TPGs are not consistent when it comes to scratched coins. One day they will slab it, next day they won't.
     
  6. g1rge

    g1rge Member

    I just took these outside in natural light conditions (4:15 EST)
    DSC00039.jpg DSC00038.jpg
    The coin is blast white in hand, and has great luster.

    1921 Peace Dollar 2.jpg 1921 Peace Dollar 1.jpg
     
  7. chridular

    chridular Member

    oh.. I'm pretty terrible at Peace Dollars, but, and please correct me if I'm wrong, I don't see this as an MS. Maybe it's the picture or maybe I am really that bad at this series, but it looks a bit too scratched up and the high points look a bit too worn. Hopefully a Peace Dollar guru will weigh in on this.
     
  8. g1rge

    g1rge Member

    Just added some scans to original pictures
     
  9. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    I would have to say the coin is not MS. As for the scratch, in my opinion it is large enough and deep enough to render the coin ungradable.
     
  10. cciesielski01

    cciesielski01 Laced Up

    i agree now that there are photos it is safe to say that if they did slab it it would be a details grade
     
  11. g1rge

    g1rge Member

    Thanks for the comments
     
  12. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    Yes. If the technical or condition grade is MS, the scratch could conceivably take down the market or "eye appeal" grade, depending on how distracting it is. The coin is going to market grade MS, though, regardless.
     
  13. scott490

    scott490 Member

    What about this coin?

    2 shallow scuffs on the reverse on either side of the wings. Bodybagged?

    RSCN1936.JPG
     
  14. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Hard to say. Based on the pics the marks go clear across the eagle and are not just in the fields. But even if they would slab the coin, with those marks, unless it is a more valuable date/mint it's not going to be worth getting it slabbed.
     
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