I like Cleaned Coins and you should to thread

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by mrbrklyn, Apr 29, 2012.

  1. buddy16cat

    buddy16cat Well-Known Member

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    No, he did that in Photoshop or a graphics editor. I was looking close at the coin after bidding and thought I notice verdigris but when I got it and scanned it, I see know verdigris. The only explanation is that it could have been the picture making the crud look green. The bottom coin above is also pictured in the Ebay auction above:
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/280990941398?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
     
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  3. princeofwaldo

    princeofwaldo Grateful To Be eX-I/T!

    Most digital cameras that I have used to shoot coin photos with, seem to be hyper-sensitive to the shade of green produced by PVC damage, which just happens to be the same green color that copper takes on when corroded. To the naked eye, there is nothing there. But on the computer monitor the coin looks like it is covered PVC damage, often times because it is covered in PVC damage.
     
  4. buddy16cat

    buddy16cat Well-Known Member

    It could also have been the dark parts of the coin I mistook for being green. The picture was bad and I saved the picture and zoomed in. There could be a small amount PVC damage, it appeared to be shipped in a piece of a stamp sheet. I took them out immediately and put them in mylar flips. Some people sell coins that don't know how to deal with them. They may get a hold of some and sell them amongst other things. I don't see any apparent PVC on these coins. I know I got some V Nickels that I bought in bulk with a green like film on them. This must be PVC and it came off with acetone.
     
  5. buddy16cat

    buddy16cat Well-Known Member

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    Speaking of verdigris, do you think these specks on this coin could be PVC rather than verdigris? I was thinking that. I keep it in an air-tight just in case anyhow. I know I read some article on Ebay Badthad wrote to try distilled water and acetone/xylene first and if it comes off, it isn't verdigris. I am not going to do anything to it, I don't see the point right now. I kind of disagreed with the person that made other statements about the coin and beginning to disagree with that.
     
  6. lonegunlawyer

    lonegunlawyer Numismatist Esq.

    I can't tell from the pics.
     
  7. buddy16cat

    buddy16cat Well-Known Member

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    I can get a larger picture.
     
  8. lonegunlawyer

    lonegunlawyer Numismatist Esq.

    Are you talking about the white film?
     
  9. buddy16cat

    buddy16cat Well-Known Member

    verdigris.jpg This blueish speck a member stated was verdigris.
     
  10. lonegunlawyer

    lonegunlawyer Numismatist Esq.

    If it is bluish/greenish, I would think verdigris. However, verdigris is not the end of the world for a coin, look. :eek:

    Cent 1864 1A.jpg Cent 1864 1B.jpg
     
  11. buddy16cat

    buddy16cat Well-Known Member

    That is funny. I keep the coin in an air-tight anyhow just in case since verdigris can't spread without air. What is up with that coin?
     
  12. lonegunlawyer

    lonegunlawyer Numismatist Esq.

    That is a 1864 IHC that went through harsh cleaning with vinegar (the coin was toast to begin with). It was the only way I was able to discern a date. Call it a hole filler. :D
     
  13. buddy16cat

    buddy16cat Well-Known Member

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    Do you think soaking this coin in acetone would make it look more attractive? Is this crud or is it corrosion?
     
  14. lonegunlawyer

    lonegunlawyer Numismatist Esq.

    If you can pick it away with a toothpick, then crud. If it won't budge, then corrosion. I do not think a dip and cotton swab clean would hurt that coin at all.
     
  15. buddy16cat

    buddy16cat Well-Known Member

    I know that green stuff on the back comes off with acetone and cotton swab. I have done that. Yes, nickels are kind of tough, you can soak them in distilled water and acetone for days till it dries up and soak it again and they only seem to improve. Looks like PVC on the back. I posted this to another forum and some people said corrosion but looks like it could also be cruddy, it could be both. It was marked as F but when I posted it in a grading section, everyone said VF what I thought.
     
  16. lonegunlawyer

    lonegunlawyer Numismatist Esq.

    I'd give it a VF.
     
  17. buddy16cat

    buddy16cat Well-Known Member

    Me too even though it was marked as F and in a lot marked as a F lot. The other coins were F definitely. I didn't want to do anything leading though and wanted to see what others would grade it not knowing what it was marked as. I think it would benefit this coin by soaking it. I always soak my V nickels with green stuff on it and it always comes off.
     
  18. lonegunlawyer

    lonegunlawyer Numismatist Esq.

    Sounds like you did a good job cherrypicking.
     
  19. buddy16cat

    buddy16cat Well-Known Member

    Redbook on the coin is $50 and I paid $2. Well it came with two common date fine coins as well for a total of $6. I certainly wasn't looking to buy more V Nickels since i just bought a lot of 200 but saw that coin and bought it.
     
  20. lonegunlawyer

    lonegunlawyer Numismatist Esq.

    Niiiiiiiice! You can't beat that with a stick!
     
  21. buddy16cat

    buddy16cat Well-Known Member

    I decided to take it out and soak it. I was on another forum and someone said something about corrosion and others started agreeing, you know how that can go. I mentioned though that I believed it could be crud and PVC damage and I should soak it and someone agreed about it and that soaking it in distilled water and acetone would do it good. I didn't really want to do this since it isn't something worth a dollar or so but if I want to sell it but I think that getting the crud and PVC damage might be helpful. I get the green stuff off of cheap V Nickels and just stick them in my coin book.
     
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