can someone tell ehat this is

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by gabepn, Nov 10, 2012.

  1. gabepn

    gabepn Member

    look at the middle bottom of the first 8 there is a blob in the middle thanks for you ideas
     

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  3. mrweaseluv

    mrweaseluv Supporter! Supporter

    It is a "cud" most likely (bit of metal from previously minted coin pressed into this one) While a nice error coin, cuds do not usualy carry a premium though. It might even be a rather intersting die crack but same as for the cud, die cracks usualy don't carry any extra premium.
     
  4. jloring

    jloring Senior Citizen

    I thought a cud had to effect the rim area of the coin, where a piece of the die had broken away..
     
  5. mrweaseluv

    mrweaseluv Supporter! Supporter

    I could be wrong, but i have several 1960 and 1955 pennies i got from the error bin at the last local coin show and they are labeled as "cuds" as well as the "B i E" error penny I have also heard refered to as a cud rather then a die crack (though the bie is definately a die crack and not a cud) So it is entirely possible I am all wet about calling it a cud. Please if I am mistaken on this let me know.
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  6. KoinJester

    KoinJester Well-Known Member

    A cud needs to affect the rim of the coin.

    what you have Mr Weasel are die chips
     
  7. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    A cud is a break along the rim of the die that extends into the field, and the OP's coin was not the result of "a bit of metal from a previous coin pressed into it".

    It is a die chip, pure and simple. To form the center of a letter or number, there has to be a "post" of metal on the die to keep it from filling with planchet metal. It is not unusual for this "post" to break off, allowing the planchet metal to fill the void.

    Chris
     
  8. ikandiggit

    ikandiggit Currency Error Collector

    The seller must have learned it from ebay.:D They are die chips. Cuds include the rim.
     
  9. dollar

    dollar Junior Member

    ditto
     
  10. robbudo

    robbudo Indian Error Collector

    The original reply did say "cud", so i figured he was putting it in quotes because he knew it wasn't really a cud, but rather something most people call a cud anyway. Some people say 'internal cud', which i don't personally mind, but 'die chip' is the preferred terminology.
     
  11. dollar

    dollar Junior Member

    ...
    Major Die Break or "Cud" always involves a breakage of the die that includes a portion of its shank and field and or design areas. In other words, it will involve a section of the die from its edge large enough to include some of the face of the die that has broken and fallen away or has been retained. If a die break occurs anywhere away from the edge (or neck of the die) within the field of coin design it is NOT a cud...
    hopes this helps...
     
  12. gabepn

    gabepn Member

    is this a rare thing or does it happen alot is iti a keeper
     
  13. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    No, it's not rare, but it does make a nice conversation piece or an example to show a young collector just starting out.

    Chris
     

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  14. kookoox10

    kookoox10 ANA #3168546

    If you can scribe the word "Yale" on that eight, you would have yourself a mighty fine looking padlock Chris.

    -Shaun
     
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