Anybody with a redbook.

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Detecto92, Oct 12, 2012.

  1. Vess1

    Vess1 CT SP VIP Supporter

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  3. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Do you have a local public library? If you do you will most likely be able to find a copy there.
     
  4. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    Sure, as soon as I have 2 hours with nothing better to do.
     
  5. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    Detecto, Conder is right. Nearly every public library will have this, and if not they can borrow one for you.

    I would seriously recommend you buy this book, along with ANA grading standards book, before you buy any coin. It realy is required reading, and fun reading to boot. Think about it, you can read about and practice grading tens of thousands of coins for free!
     
  6. rickmp

    rickmp Frequently flatulent.

    You are trying to teach the unteachable.
     
  7. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    As much as I hate too, I have to agree with you rickmp.
     
  8. Detecto92

    Detecto92 Well-Known Member

    When I get a little cash I plan on buying one. Because a lot of the prices numismedia lists are not accurate. Especially for low grade silver.

    Since we live out in the country, and do not pay city taxes, the public library wants $300+ a year to join. Although any other person that belongs to a library locally (even 30+ miles away) can use our library free of charge. A bunch of BS if you ask me.

    That's right. If I live in Town A which is 25 miles away, and belong to the Town A library, I can use Town B's (our towns) library for free. Even though I do not pay Town B's tax. But if your not a member of any library, such as those who live out in the country your SOL unless you pay out the nose.
     
  9. coinguy-matthew

    coinguy-matthew Ike Crazy

    You could always look for completed sales...... I understand there probably wont be a lot of info but it would greatly increase your understanding of what the real value is.
     
  10. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    Plus, you do not need the LATEST Redbook. Trust me, the prices are high in all of them and do not change much. Heck, maybe a 5-10 year old redbook, (except for bullion), has more accurate prices today than when it was published.

    What you want is the knowledge really. Prices, they come and go, what you should generally know about roosevelts is unless ultra high grade most are bullion, save the three or four dates in the early series. That will get you 95% of the way there, and I apologize if I am insulting any RD collectors here. A 5-10 year old redbook will teach you this as well as the 2013 edition, like I said only silver prices will change these much.

    You are a young guy Tim, young and broke as I once was. For $5 or less get a used Redbook and read it cover to cover, and ask questions here. Plenty of time later in life to spend money on coins, you wish to acquire knowledge now, so when you have more money later to spend you will spend it WISELY.

    Chris

    Edit: Btw, just as an aside, I will point something out. Take this as constructive criticism in which it was meant. You had a thread a week ago about the 94s dime. I knew all about this dime, its mintage, etc since the age of 7. How? I read about it in the Redbook. There are probably 500 similar facts in that little book, facts that if you study it hard, and read more here, will become second nature to you. :)
     
  11. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title]

    That's because the vast majority of the time it's only worth melt...which a red book won't help you with anyway.
     
  12. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    So the "public library" will not even allow you to use their red book? Not once in my life have I had a library refuse me access to common reference material, so while I cannot state that your story is untrue, it rings loudly of an excuse. Do the librarians check ID's the second you walk in the door, and if they do not, would anyone even recognize you? I highly doubt you would be given any trouble by simply asking to see the book.



    You just had a little cash, remember? Instead of thinking you're slick and lying your way into a YN ANA membership just for the number, would it not have been a wiser move to buy the very book you've so often recommended?



    Exactly, but I cannot be the only one who gets a sense that there is more to his wanting this info than we've been told.
     
  13. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title]

    I don't know if there is really "more to it." A Red Book is at best a beginner reference that any collector should have. I think the problem here is...Detecto is unwilling to spend what little money he has on one when he could buy a coin instead. He wouldn't be the first one of us to buy the coin before buying the book.

    By asking us for the info...he is simply trying to have his cake and eat it too.
     
  14. Detecto92

    Detecto92 Well-Known Member

    I don't really need the redbook as much as you might think. Numismedia is pretty decent on prices except for low grades, and I can find the mintage numbers of all us coins online.

    I can USE the library, I just cannot check out any books.
     
  15. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna


    Add this to other recent threads, then think about past threads and you might see what I mean.



    Then you sit down with pen and paper to write down whatever info you're looking for. This goes right into what so many have said about not expecting everything handed to you.
     
  16. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title]

    Actually, I would say you need one. Every collector of US coins should have a Red Book...so if you are a collector, you need one. There really isn't an arguement against that. They are an excellent general information reference...not for prices, but for general info. Because of this, you don't need a brand new one. I probably buy one every 5 years or so. I currently have a 2012 edition...my previous was a 2007.

    Therefore, if you don't want to pay the full price for a new one...then buy a used one a couple years old. They can very easily be found. Here is a 2011 for $6.95 shipped. http://www.ebay.com/itm/THE-OFFICIA...384?pt=US_Nonfiction_Book&hash=item3a7ad04f98
     
  17. Kasia

    Kasia Got my learning hat on

    Which is why you started this thread asking that someone with a redbook spend their time getting you the information you want from it and giving you that info gratis. In case you've forgotten, the thread started this way:
    [h=2]Anybody with a redbook.[/h]
    Can you give me the price of roosie dimes in MS-60 from 1947-1954 all years and mint marks?

    Thanks



    So it looks to me like maybe you could use one, if you're asking the information contained within.

    And it doesn't matter if you can use a library or not. If you have the money you show that you spend on junk coins, then you have enough to buy a redbook.


    Guess you didn't take your own advice and get your redbook back about 6-7 months ago. Too bad. http://www.cointalk.com/t202098/
     
  18. Detecto92

    Detecto92 Well-Known Member

    Is is truly necessary for you to relentlessly reiterate everything that I do wrong? Are you sadistic?
     
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  20. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Maybe, but I've got to try.

    The Redbook is great, but don't use it for prices. They are probably even less accurate than numismedia.

    Really? I've never heard of a public library that charged just to use the library. Most are county libraries and anyone who lives in the county can use them for free. I could see a charge for withdraw priviledges from someone who lives outside the county ($300 is ridiculous though.), but I've never seen ANY librarian come up and demand proof of ownership of a library card from someone who simply comes in and looks at the books there without checking them out.

    In most cases you shouldn't even have to ask. Most libraries I've seen have open stacks (Except for the Rare Books area) and you can just walk into them and find the book yourself. It will be in the Nonfiction stacks in the 737 section.

    OK so you can use the library. Forget the other things I said about the libraries then and go get the information you wanted. On the other hand if you live as far from the Library as you say and you wind up needing to make a second trip to get other information some other day, you will have spent more on gas than on simply buying your own copy that you can refer to as often as you like. And you WILL refer to it again and again.
     
  21. Kasia

    Kasia Got my learning hat on

    Well, looks like Detecto is telling the truth, in a way. Basically he's naming a figure that probably is the amount of library tax his parents would pay on the home if the home was in the city. Then the entire family could use the library (have a card) if they paid that to the library. Sort of like this is for the community and a line has been drawn as to who belongs where. Since he's not w/in the city limits, he's excluded, based on him living with his parents and ***not renting***. Because, from what I can see, if he wanted to use the library for an annual fee, all he has to do is present his rental receipt and then it's a straight 15% of the monthly rent. So if he paid 500.00 a month (hey, I know I'm being unrealistic, he has no job) he would have to pay 75.00 for use of the library.

    So, yes, the closest major town's library charges out the you know what for their services (loaning books, using their computers, blah, blah, blah). Quite a bit more expensive than I thought it should be, but they're into excluding non-residents unless you pay. My local library 6 years ago, before I officially became a resident, wanted to charge me 30.00 for the privelege of having a library card. I simply used my dad's info to get him a card, and then used that.

    So....long story short, Detecto is better off either moving to town and finding a job/rental he can walk to work with, or foresaking the library and coughing up maybe 10 or 12 bucks and getting a redbook. Heck, chances are, at the next show he goes to, he might be able to talk a dealer out of a years old one for 2 bucks. Or go do a sob story to his coin club and see if anyone wants to give him one.
     
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