dbl struck, dbl brockage and something else i cant define = 1993 Quarter

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by Discerpo, Oct 9, 2012.

  1. Discerpo

    Discerpo New Member

    Forgive me if I use the wrong terms here, I just read about these terms about an hour ago. My wife got this quarter from a customer at Wal-Mart many years ago. Its a 1993 Quarter. The head side appears to have been double struck, I also see two dbl reversed strikes (brockage) turned 90 degrees, The tail side is very faint except for the small part that looks like a clipped(?) coin the never really got clipped. This small part is the only part of the quarter that looks normal, that part is actually bent downward/away from the head side

    Can you guys help me figure out what I actually have here? Any Idea what a value might be for it?
     

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  3. rascal

    rascal Well-Known Member

    Welcome to the forum .. are you the one I talked to today by email? anyway I hope you enjoy the talk forum as much as I do. your coin is one of those man made altered coins. we call them a hammer or squeeze job. It looks like someone has used a clipped coin to support the reverse side when they pushed the other coin into the obverse side of this one. A good way to identify these is to look at the diameter of them . when these are done this way it usually flares the coin out wider than normal in a few places. Troy
     
  4. d.t.menace

    d.t.menace Member

    I might agree with you if you can explain the extra nose, mouth and chin that are not reversed.
     
  5. rascal

    rascal Well-Known Member

    This coin had another coin pushed into it at least two or maybe more times. the first squeeze left a impression of Washington's profile on the coin that was used. on the second or third squeeze or hit with the hammer this coin acted as a coin die .
     
  6. iGradeMS70

    iGradeMS70 AKA BustHalfBrian

    This one screams PMD.

    I agree with rascal about the hammer job theory. Sorry. :(
     
  7. silentnviolent

    silentnviolent accumulator--selling--make an offer I can't refuse

    squeeze job. Welcome to the forum!
     
  8. ziggy9

    ziggy9 *NEC SPERNO NEC TIMEO*

    only problem I have with the above assesments is that a squeeze job would NOT account for the extra profile of Washington since squeeze jobs always reverse the image. this coin needs further review, in hand, by someone who knows errors.

    Richard
     
  9. silentnviolent

    silentnviolent accumulator--selling--make an offer I can't refuse

    It could, though. There is obvious indications that it was squeezed multiple times. Couldn't the other coin have picked up this one's design element, then transferred it again back onto this coin in a subsequent squeeze?

    I agree completely with sending it to Mike Diamond. I wouldn't write it off so quickly if it were mine, even with the above reasoning glaring in my mind.
     
  10. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Bingo!

    During the first squeeze, while this coin received the reversed impression of the other coin, it also transferred ITS image to the other coin. Then the other coin was shifted down and squeezed again impressing both a second reversed impression AND the properly oriented doubled profile.

    The odd thing it almost looks like they used a clipped planchet coin as the other coin.
     
  11. rascal

    rascal Well-Known Member

    These altered coins are simple and quick to make and they are horrible on ebay for the beginning collectors that don't know they are worthless. It is best to learn the minting process about how coins are made then these fakes are easier to spot.If this had been a real mint error the first profile of Washington would have been almost completely wiped out by the second strike and the coin would still be nice and round and not flared out because it has reeded edges which means it was in the retaining colar when struck at the mint.If I had not been 100% sure of what it was then I would have not said anything about it.

    I did a coin today to show you good folks what a coin looks like when someone makes a impression of another coin then forces it onto a coin. on this one Lincoln can be seen three times and the letters RTY of liberty shows twice and they are raised and are not backwards. If folks can learn more what to watch for and not buy these altered things that may stop some corrupt sellers from trying to sell them. enjoy the photo and this coin has been destroyed.

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