Any help with what these coins are or may be worth would be amazing!! I think some are chinese but not sure. Thank you all very much for your time!!!
It always helps if you can tell us something about weight and size. In the following, I number the coins from left to right, A = top row, B = bottom row. Nr. 1 appears to be a 20 cent piece from the Manchurian Provinces (China), ca. 1908-1915 Ref. Y#213, but what subtype it is I can't tell, the pictures in the standard catalog are not good enough—and my Chinese is non-existent. If so, it should be about 5.2 g of 890 silver and ca. 22 mm Nr. 2A & B look to be what they say: 10 Cash from Kwangtung province (China) ca. 1900-1906 Ref. Y #193 If so, they should be 7.5 g of copper and 27.8 mm diameter. Ditto nr. 3B, apparently 20 cash from Fungtien province (China) (Fengtien in std catalog), but the characters on the obverse outside don't quite match anything shown in the dull, blurry pix in the std catalog. Brass, 30 mm. Y#90? 3A & 4B are 2 Sen pieces (because they say so), thus Japanese and apparently 19th century since the Std Catalog doesn't show any 20th century 2 Sen pieces 4A is a Korean 5 Fun piece ca. 1893-98, KM #1107-1116, but I can't tell you which one. 17.2 g copper. 26 mm. Maybe a real oriental coin expert can further nail these down. And as always, none of these attributions shall be interpreted as a guarantee of authenticity.
Personally, I would ask how you got these coins. The reason I ask is there are huge numbers of these being faked and coming out of China. A few of these have some curious striking affects. I would think we would need closer up pics, weights, etc.
I got all of these coins from my great grandfather. He was a military man and traved the world alot. I know they are very old but I do not have any scales to weigh them. I will try and post better pictures for you guys. I cant thank you all enough for the help! Jason
Could they be from Hong Kong when it was under British rule? My Chinese coins all have square holes in the middle
I have the advantage of identify these coins because I read Chinese, hehe. So here are my identifications: 1. 20 cent silver from China Ch'ingManchurian Provinces. The face value is marked by the weight on the obverse. The subtype is Y#213a.4, circe 1913. There's no Manchu characters at the obverse center and the reverse legend reads MANCHURIAN PROVINCES. If it reads MANCHURIAN PROVIENCES, then it would be 213a.6. 2A & 2B. 10 cash copper from China Ch'ing Kwangtung province. Y#A193, circe 1906. Quite common coins but yours are beautiful. 3A and 4B. Both 2 sen bronze from Japan. Y#18.2, 3A 1882 and 3B 1877. 3B. 20 cash copper from China Ch'ing Dynasty Fengtien Province. Y#90. The date 1905 (乙巳，Yi Si)is marked on the obverse but using traditional Chinese calendar and is very hard if you are not familiar with it. 4A. 5 fun copper-nickle from Korea. KM#1108. 1895 (the Tae Cho-son year 504). The most important point for identification is the obverse legend reads Tae Cho-son (大朝鲜) not Cho-son（朝鲜）. These coins are common but interesting. I think they are all genuine and hope my identifications help! Assur
All copper coins look ok to me. The most valuable one is the Fengtien 20 cash coin. On some random day, it might sell close to 100 dollars or more. Can't quite tell if the silver Manchuria 1.44 mace coin is genuine. Have seen counterfeits floating around for this type of coin.
Thanks guys for helping Jason out. I was just nervous about some of the strikes, since I know there are millions of fakes of these nowadays. I am glad real experts in this field could help him. Sadly, my Chinese collections stops with the cash.
If it helps any, the Chinese 10 and 20 coins, the "cash" term is translated from the Chinese yuan (transliteration - character on east side of coin), meaning dollar.
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These are beautifully toned coins. The Hunan (Hu-Nan) and Canton (Kwang-Tung) coins are provincial (I cannot determine the dates), the Hong Kong coin is territorial (being a British territory). The 10 "cash" or dollar coins I am guessing may be pre 1911. Also guessing the Hong Kong coin has an Arabic numeral date because Hong Kong was a British territory at that time (and into 1997). I do know the north and south Chinese characters stand for Hong Kong and the east/west characters stand for one part or one cent. The use of cent on the HK coin is interesting since it is an American term as compared to the British term of penny (which we commonly call our cents).
Unfortunately many (if not all) of these coins appear to have been chemically cleaned. I agree though that the copper/bronze coins are genuine. The Manchurian silver coin has some inconsistencies, but that's not really unusual for genuine examples of these.
What do you mean by chemically cleaned And are you sure? As far as I know they have just been sitting in an old shed for a long time. Do you mean they were cleaned along time ago? And if so how do they go about doing that? Also does it hurt the coins? Thanks for your time!
The wild and uneven toning on the last couple coins and the appearance of the first set suggest that they are cleaned with chemical solution. With all due respect, we've had people post coins and say they were in someone's collection for 50 years, but they were actually modern copies. My point is that I'm just taking it at "face value" regardless of provenance.
