Guess the grade #413

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1938-s NGC Grade?

Poll closed Sep 8, 2012.
  1. Genuine/details

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  2. 62

    5.3%
  3. 63

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  4. 64

    21.1%
  5. 65

    15.8%
  6. 66

    42.1%
  7. 67

    15.8%
  8. 68

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  1. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    1938-S NGC slabbed

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  3. ReaperRuler

    ReaperRuler Resident Numismatist

  4. jcakcoin

    jcakcoin New Member

  5. ddoomm1

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  8. Bisquitlips

    Bisquitlips Junior Member

    64 Red. Love the fields, but poor Mr. Lincoln had some acne in his younger days. :smile And what the heck happened to the "O" in ONE on the rev? Don't think that it is a rub / slide as just the "O" is affected. The other letters are nice.

    That this a pretty penny!
     
  9. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

    The O in ONE is a typical weak part of Lincoln wheat cents. It's directly opposite the bust which requires the biggest flow of metal into the dies. The shoulder area is also a typically weakly struck area on Lincolns due to incomplete metal flow.
     
  10. MVC

    MVC Senior Member

    I would go with MS65RD on this one
     
  11. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    Nice clean coin , with a little more luster I could go 67 , but as is 66 .
     
  12. mralexanderb

    mralexanderb Coin Collector

    maybe I overgraded it but I'll stick with ms 67 rd. Nice reverse.
     
  13. alhenry92

    alhenry92 Liberty Nickel Enthusiast

    im no expert at all, but this looks like a MS64 RD to me
     
  14. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

  15. Irish2Ice

    Irish2Ice Member

    Face chatter looks more like planchet flaws than hits to me (which NGS shouldn't count against). Luster booms. Reverse is incredible.
     
  16. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    If you're right , I've learned something today , now after a closer look it looks like the chatter is planchet flaws , still I'm hoping for a 66 . lol
     
  17. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

    A flaw would be something like a lamination or other serious defect. On this coin they are simply planchet marks. Cent planchets are covered with nicks and if the striking pressure and metal flow don't go as designed, the high relief points reveal the planchet marks. The first place this becomes obvious is the shoulder and the O in ONE. After that, the top of the head, the cheek the jaw, the AME in AMERICA.

    Now, any minute Doug's gonna pop in and say there's "no such thing" as planchet marks. LOLOLOLOLOL :D
     
  18. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

    This would be a planchet flaw: :cool:
     

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  19. Irish2Ice

    Irish2Ice Member

    A while back, I stumbled upon this thread while trying to learn how to grade Ike's. The number one thing to learn about Ike's, and I'm still learning, is about planchet flaws. MOST clad Ike's have them to some degree. So while I'm not positive thats what happening here, it's my guess...

    BUT, second guessing myself, there are no flaws in the fields....just booming luster, so maybe I'm in La La land.
     
  20. Irish2Ice

    Irish2Ice Member

    OK. You're the Lincoln master.

    In Ike world we call them planchet flaws because the planchet was flawed before the minting process. Versus a proof planchet that was polished or simply not tumbled (lol) before minting. But your description makes perfect sense to me and planchet "marks" is a great description.

    Either way, your explanation coincides with my crazy thought process.
     
  21. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    Ok , I can see they aren't hits , maybe Planchet zits is a better word . lol I always thought they'd affect the grade to some degree . Guess we'll see .
     
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