Sounds good. It is a lot of money. I agree about errors selling better with an attribution, especially with how many PMD's you see going around in the errors forums on this site. I got my coins back and the one coin I sent in for variety plus attribution for an 1878-S FS-801 variety, apparently "the expert didn't see it". needless to say I called and spoke to someone and they told me to send it back in free of charge because it is no doubt that variety. She told me that the expert knows about all there is to know about varieties and I said I didn't doubt it but how are his eyes? Anyway, so the 3 came back, 1 is going back in and we'll see how that goes...a second time.
That's weird they didn't see it. You'll have to post some pics. I plan on posting some when I finally get around to getting this done.
I finally got around to sending in the 2000P rotated die, and is it just me or did ngc just screw me? There's no degree of rotation, no direction of rotation, and the coin isn't straight in the holder. What the heck? I'm not very happy with the way they did this.
I've seen them denote it both ways, usually if its a certain rotation like "90 deg. rotated dies" or 180 or whatever. There's not such thing as a direction of rotation, 90 degrees one way is 270 the other, so there would be any of that. Looks like yours should be 90 though. but it doesn't matter that the coin isn't straight. I'd say about half of my slabs have SOME sort of crookedness to them. At least you didn't have to send the coin to them 3 times to attribute the error!
Thanks for the reply goincarcrazy. I just assumed it would list the degree of rotation, and with this kind of error it would make more sense if the coin was as straight as they could get it I would think. Those are basically the only reasons I sent it to begin with, besides just people knowing it's real. If you go to the rotated die census they have the direction of rotation listed, like CCW or CW. I sent the original photos to the census page as well as the slabbed NGC ones. I'm also going to list this on Ebay, anyone have any suggestions on an opening bid? As far as I know this is the only example in the world right now of a 2000P 90* rotated die. It should be an R8. I want to start it at $25,000, but that may be a bit high lol. Also, I hope they made your doubled coin right.
BTW I did write down the process and how long it took because I remembered your comment. It went like this: 8/06 Received 8/10 Scheduled for grading 8/14 Quality control 8/16 Finalized/Imaged/Shipped 8/20 I got it back I know I said I was sending it awhile back, but for some reason any time I decide to do something a million other things pop up making me unable to do it. Makes me wonder if I had not planned it if that stuff would have even come up.
I had a couple of quick questions about this and then I'll leave you all alone about it. #1: Do you think I should send this back in to get it straightened? It's crooked in the holder right? I've looked at every nickel photo I could find and the coin is crooked according to all of these photos, even the one in the redbook. I called NGC and they said I could send it back in for mechanical error, but that they don't list the degree of rotation on the labels, so I can't even get that listed if I wanted to. #2: Am I crazy in thinking this is a rare coin worth something? I sent photos to the Census admin and got no replies, so what's the deal with that I wonder? Thanks for any help, this will probably be my close to last post.
Mint errors are not listed in the census because there are just too many different types of errors compounded by variations of each type, and when you multiply that by all of the different denominations and designs, it would be a nightmare. Chris
Sorry, that's my fault Chris, I should have added the full name, I meant the Rotated Die Census. I figure they probably just don't check their email or something.
If you're going to sell it on Ebay, just start the auction at .99 and let the buyers decide what its worth.
Couldn't that work out extremely bad though? If there's a minimum that I would take for it, shouldn't I start it at that minimum? I have it listed now for the least I would take for it, otherwise I would rather just keep it. I might pull it though and send it back to them for reslabbing, which I'm thinking is probably going to be necessary just so it looks right in the photos. After I may just list it for BIN at my selling limit and see what best offers I get. I really don't know, that's why I keep asking for opinions on this stuff, I just don't get many, so I have to keep asking. I'm not around a lot of coin people and the dealers in town are not interested in talking about error coins.
From what I've seen in the past, it's anywhere from $75-$150. The fact that its a 2000 helps it since errors are supposedly scarcer after 1999 when the mint installed optical sensors to detect errors.
I must be confused then, doesn't the availability make them worth more? I just sold a bison 90* rotated die for $133, and it has an R6 rating, so there's up to 30 of those available (I also send the RDC a photo of that too), and it wasn't in the best condition. If there are no other examples available, doesn't that make it worth more than if there are 30 examples? I also read in an article that a guy sold a nicer condition bison for a couple of thousand dollars.
Yes there is that risk, and yes you can start the bidding at the minimum you will accept. But by starting the bid higher you run the risk of chasing away potential bidders (Many will not bid on higher start auction.) and your fees will b higher. You have to decide which way is the better way to go on your coin.