Interesting Lincoln Cent

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  1. CamaroDMD

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  3. The_Cave_Troll

    The_Cave_Troll The Coin Troll

    it's a fake. the letter from the experts is convincing to me and even if it isn't to anyone else there are other problems.

    If the coin was really struck twice or three times (as the obverse would suggest) then the reverse would show the obvious tripled detail as well.

    Also the "underdate" (the 3 that is clearly visible) is too close to the rim, there is no way that a legitimate 1943 die would produce that particular image.

    Finally, the guy claims to have joined PCGS and NGC, but if he really thought that there was a chance this coin is real, why didn't he send it to one of them? He has to know it would be worth way more slabbed than unslabbed.

    it's just way to fishy!
     
  4. xeno108

    xeno108 New Member

    my eyes might be playing tricks on me... does it say both 1944 and 1943?
     
  5. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title]

    Whats what I thought it said too-but I wasn't sure.
     
  6. jody526

    jody526 New Member

    Personally, I won't be bidding on any $100K coins. LOL

    I agree, though. It is "interesting", but definately an auction that should be avoided.
     
  7. The_Cave_Troll

    The_Cave_Troll The Coin Troll

    yep, that's what the expert that the letter came from thought.
     
  8. starwarsfreak

    starwarsfreak Senior Member

    My eyes are also seeing a 1944 date on there...
     
  9. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title]

    Well, yeah-me neither. I don't think I could take out a $100K loan on a coin with my $10/hr. student job and no collateral anyway LOL.
     
  10. Speedy

    Speedy Researching Coins Supporter

    Just so ya'll know---it is totaly possible <sp?> to have a coin with dates from 2 or more years....I think Mike Byers had one that had a space of 13+ years......
    BUT on this coin I would agree that its fake---if it was double stuck I would think the back would also show signs of being struck twice.

    Speedy
     
  11. Just Carl

    Just Carl Numismatist

    If nothing else the stories he posted sounded interesting. I like the part about the homeless guy carrying that coin around with him. Then he adds all the stories taht people send him. Nice touch for a scam.
     
  12. Mikjo0

    Mikjo0 Numismatist

    Right Carl,it has all the makings of a modern urban legend.
     
  13. jackeen

    jackeen Senior Member

    Somebody did this, most likely:

    Placed a real 1943 steel cent face-down on a piece of leather, and whacked it a few times with a wooden mallet. The result was a reverse impression of the obverse in the leather. Then he took a 1944 cent, placed it in the indentation left by the 1943 cent, and whacked it a few times with the mallet. The result is what you see.

    A smarter con artist would have used a 1942 cent.
     
  14. jackeen

    jackeen Senior Member

    To get the effect on both sides, you place a coin in between two pieces of leather, and whack it with a mallet. Then you replace it with the coin your trying to alter, put it between the impressions and whack it. You can also just shift the one coin relative to its impressions, to make it seem double stuck.
     
  15. satootoko

    satootoko Retired

    A bigger sucker than any who have looked at it so far!

    I really don't know whether to respond [​IMG] or [​IMG], or even [​IMG]!
     
  16. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Jackeen, you are on the right track but it won't work with leather. Yes the leather will take on the impression of the coin but it is nowhere near hard enough to transfer the impression back to the second coin. A piece of soft brass on the other hand should do the trick nicely
     
  17. Jim M

    Jim M Ride it like ya stole it

    Sounds alot like the Bill Gates and Windows story dont it. : )
     
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