The obverse of this coin to my "amateur" eye see's some possible "problems" on this coin. Maybe on the reverse. I would like to see who might also see what I do and or more. If you can list what you see that you think are problems/errors I would appreciate it. A grade and value would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for looking.
Well I'm told cud is good sometimes? isn't that a small piece near the N in cent on the reverse? What I was really looking at, was that line that goes from what looks like a piece of cud at her ear lobe and runs down her neck and maybe through her curls. If you follow the line up from her ear lobe, it appears to come out just below the L in liberty. I also see some sort of a curve extending out from the tip of the crown. The last thing was what I assumed was faint piece of cud, a long rectangular piece covering part of the eight and three and extending back onto the rim below the nine. You can see the beginning of the cud between the one and the eight and extending down onto the rim. So what do you think?
As for the mark covering the date, I don't believe it's a cud because for the length that the mark extends through the 3, it does not match to the amount of damage/mark on the actual rim. To me, it looks more like a blunt force coming from the right side down(Post Mint Damage). Just my opinion of course. And I'm surely not a professional As for the piece missing on her neck, I don't think cud is the right term for that. But I have to ask, is the blemish indented in the coin? Seems like a cross between a die error and a planchet error....but I don't know.... It does look like a good error to me, I would hold on to it and surely get some more advice for the guys and gals here on the forum.
That is an 1839 N9, which is a common variety. I don't see any cuds, but you should keep an eye out as they can be quite valuable. My guess on yours is around a 12 net 7 and worth 10-20 bucks. That is a die crack. That hole in the ear is damage from a punch, someone hit the coin hard with something sharp and it made that depression. The small piece near the N in cent is exactly opposite that punch mark. When they hit the coin the opposite side was pushed out. I don't see it, but I am fairly certain it is not a cud. Probably damage or a lamination. This variety, 39n9, does come with cuds in it's late die state but they are on the rim: http://images.goldbergauctions.com/php/lot_auc.php?site=1&sale=59&lot=553 Most of the cuds on these middle and late date occur on the rim like that. There are some notable, and valuable, exceptions like the 1931 N12 with cuds extending to and eventually over *13: http://images.goldbergauctions.com/php/lot_auc.php?site=1&sale=59&lot=366 Another notable large cud in the middle dates is the 1835 N9, and it's worth keeping an eye out for it as they go for big bucks even in low grade: http://images.goldbergauctions.com/php/lot_auc.php?site=1&sale=59&lot=425 Another one of those 35n9 with both cuds in vg7 sold for around $5,000, but you would have to join EAC to see a picture of that one
Thank you both for your replies. You affirmed what I thought that the line running down from her ear was a possible die crack. Do you think the one running from the tip of the crown is connected to the neck line? I still believe the rectangular piece connected to the top right of the N is cud. I believe that after measuring the distance from the top to the middle of the hole. On the reverse, the pushed out point is just above the N in cent, but below the right side of the N in one on top. You can do a measurement on the pictures to see the area. So do you think this having a die crack enhances the value if nothing else? Thanks again for your links and time, I learned more then I knew before I agree with the material covering the bottom of the eight and three.
Yes, If you look at the 39n9 I linked too you can see two additional die cracks extending from the tip of the coronet. 100% no, it is not a cud. Cuds are pieces of the die that fall off. On the 39n9 I linked too, it shows multiple rim cuds on the obverse with no "cud" by the N on the reverse. Your coin does not have those obverse cuds, so it is an earlier die stage then the one I linked too. There is no way for your coin to have a cud on the reverse die and no cuds on the obverse die, while the other coin, using the same obverse and reverse die, has cuds on the obverse but none on the reverse. If you look at the die cracks, your coin is a middle die state used earlier then the coin I linked too. If your coin had a die cud on the reverse, than all later die stages would also have it. No, all 39 N9's have the bisecting die crack on the obverse and it's a common variety. It adds no value, although it is very cool
