I won three toned IKE coins at around $4 each included shipping cost. Here's pictures on eBay... Here's pictures by my camera as I got them in my hand. You can say that I got duped... I want to know if this is consider as fraud? My only concern is backfire from the seller as he didn't leave any feedback on my account. Should I go ahead and talk with seller or file a complaint through eBay? I know when I file a complaint through eBay, feedback will be suspend until further investigating. I have over 2000 positive feedback with no negative feedback in past year. I like to keep that way.
Well the final stage of toning is black, perhaps the photos were taken a few years ago ??? AT anyway.
First, as a buyer you cannot get negative feedback. So forget that. Second, if you are unhappy with the coins, return them. If it goes smoothly I wouldn't leave negative feedback. Maybe none. If you get a runaround then a negative might be warranted. There's no reason to get ebay involved unless it turns ugly. As for the Ike's, some collector's feel that photos taken at extreme angle and lighting are okay. Even important, to show off color. I don't go along with that, FWIW. Lance.
Well if you have a problem with the purchase why not just tell him first before going to tell on him. Ebay cares very little about sellers in general and will no doubt side with the buyer for almost any reason. Sellers are also so scared of receiving bad feedbacks that you can fleece and extort them pretty easily. You as a buyer can literally buy sealed rolls, open them, and return them if you feel like it. So basically what Im getting at is ...just send the seller a quick message letting him know your not happy and that you feel taken advantage of. You can also throw in the classic..."what will you do to make things right" question.
Thank you for the feedbacks. I forgot that seller can't leave negative feedback. I just send a message to seller who sold it to me. His listing did stated that the coins can be return within 14 days.
I feel the need to point out that the seller's photos clearly show questionably toned coins. In other words, why did you buy them in the first place?
Test the water in seller's honesty. I have been buying comic books and sports cards. I know what to watch out for. In coin world, it's new for me and I am interesting in toned IKEs, but I don't know what to watch out for. Since these coins are relative cheap compare with other toned IKEs. I learned my lesson.
The problem with toning is they can look very different under very different lighting conditions. Also, toning is a reaction, so can be slow or fast, so it is possible that even the mail conditions POSSIBLY can affect the toning. I have seen some GORGEOUS photos of toned proofs that in hand look completely blah. But, is it a lie if the coins DO look like that under certain conditions? I don't think it is. Best bet is to either buy through dealers people can recommend to you that take representative pictures or only buy these in person. In person you can judge if the coin is pleasing to you or not.
I can't see the pictures, work filter, but I would contact the seller and request to return them if you are not happy. I have returned a couple items on ebay and in most cases a polite request to return the coins is all it takes. I don't even feel like you have to say why you want to return them, if he offers returns then no reason other then 'I did not like them' is required. A though here, it will cost you money to return, once you factor in that cost is it still worth it? My general rule for ebay is, if the seller sent the item pictured, even if the picture was a little deceiving, and I want to return it then I pay for return shipping. If the seller sent an item different then the one pictured then they should cover the return shipping.
I think these are the same coins as the ones pictured in the auction. If you look closely at the 1977, there is a nick on the rim just under the first "T" in "Trust". It's present in both images. Same thing for the first 1978, but at the 4:00 position. Which means either the artificial toning job didn't last, or it only shows up under the same conditions the seller used to bring it out... Either way, return the coins and don't look back.
