Conterfiet Bust Halfs on Ebay

Look at this:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1834-Capped...99?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item4d035e6b53

That obverse can't be right. Is this a counterfeit?

 

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Looks fine to me. Has that rim that is off set because of the older minting process.

 

It looks to me like it can be right.

 

What makes you think it is a fake anyway? Do you think it is struck or cast or altered? Just curious.

 

Looks good to me. What do you see that makes you think it is fake, Ruben? (Are you saying you think the PCGS holder is fake, too?)

 

The nose. As for the slab, darn if i know. That nose is unique. Did they carve it?

 

Auch - wait a second. That is not the right one.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1834-Capped...99?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item4d035e6b53

 

Sorry about the wild goose chase. I'd complain about firefox cut and past but its a worthless rant.

 

Not to make any stereotypes but that Bust looks like Barbara Streisands profile

 

Oh this changes everything... I will look at this one now.
And this is a 25 cent piece not a quarter

 

Ah - it is a quarter. I haven't looked at many of those. It still looks wrong though.

 

I haven't looked at many either. It does look a little wrong. Looks 'soft' lack of detail but hard to see since its so worn. Im 50/50 on it.

 

Looks legit to me.
Lance.

GRADED PCGS


EBAY AUCTION

 

That's the most depressing thought I have read on CT in a very long time.......

 

yup, a fake $1/2 masquerading as a quarter $.

 

Where did the dot after 25 C go on the one on eBay?

 

yup

 

Looking closer, I don't like the beak hook and placement of air hole on the beak. They are not very similar at all.

Is anyone here a CBQ expert and can tell us if this is just a die variety? I don't remember if I have Brown, (Brown for CBQ, right?)

 

I do see some differences between the eBay coin and the PCGS coin, but they may simply be die differences. The first star (at the 5 o'clock position) is oriented differently on the two coins. The top of the beak points to "AT" on the PCGS coin, but to the "A" on the eBay coin. In the PCGS coin, the 2 of "25" is higher than the 5, but they are even on the eBay coin. The topmost lines in the shield are horizontal on the eBay coin, but slightly slanted on the PCGS coin. These are mighty small differences, but I can see them, and presume you can too. Didn't someone* write a book on this series of quarters, analogous to the Overton book on half dollars?

*Valentine??

 

I was wrong, it is Browning, not Brown, for CBQ's. I believe Valentine did the dimes and half dimes.