Penny 2 years print

i don't know JACK about error coins and i would call that a fake. first off... why did only the date transfer and not abe himself on the obverse??? second... how would an already minted 1981 cent get put back into the mix of blanks to be reminted with 1982. third... it traveled from denver in 1981 to philadelphia in 1982 to be reminted???? give me a break!!!!

 

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I have to agree that it is very illogical, but I have heard some stories of mint workers doing strange things with coins and currency.

 

From what I can see it looks like the 82 was the first strke and the 81 the secondary strike.

 

You are right , sometimes I also think the mint workers do odd things. There is a big difference between a mint made error coin and one that has a bad homemade alteration like the one in this thread. When we learn how the minting process works it makes it easier to spot the altered coins.

Some counterfeiters can do them so good that sometimes they can get the fake coins past a few experts.

 

Is this code for "I don't know and I just made this up"

if not please share, the Internet gives you special permission to tell us this one time.

 

Seriously?

We are talking about a flat one-piece metal disc here, right?

 

We already have enough of these man made things floating around on Ebay and elsewhere . I'm not going to get on here and tell exactly how to alter the coins so others can do it. It is a well known thing in the error coin hobby how this is done and people need to learn how to spot the altered coins.

 

I'd be interested in hearing how they "took the coin apart, and then put it back together"....

 

the same way as the two headed or two tails coins are took apart. I believe you can figure out the rest of how the extra details are added . I thought almost everyone in the error and variety hobby already knew this . this process has been used for a very long time . It is the same way that the D mintmarks were added to the 1916 dimes trying to fool the error experts. sometimes only a small area on the coins are opened up depending on what needs to be added.

 

You hit the nail square on the head!

 

It's not the same thing. The faked 1916 d were two separate coins. A 1916 obverse and a 1917 d reverse cut and put together the same way magician's coins are made.

The ones with added mintmarks were drilled out and a D added into the void.

The op's coin "appears" struck this way because of the use of counterfeit dies not because it was "taken apart and put back together".

 

I'm well aware it has been done for a long time... but not to make fake double struck cents with 2 dates.

 

OK, if you're not going to tell us how it was done at least tell us where to look on the OP's coin for the evidence that it's been taken apart and put back together. At least that way you won't spill all the secrets, just enough to educate others that aren't as "knowledgeable".

 

you have mentioned two ways of altering the D mintmarks . the hard to detect ones were added from under the surface of the coins . here's a link I just found telling how this was done. read the bottom paragraph ..

http://reviews.ebay.com/1916-D-mercury-dime-fake-how-to-spot-them-and-avoid?ugid=10000000001222100

 

look closely near the inside rim of the reverse side of this thing and see if you can see anything unusal looking. this is why I said it had been taken apart. partial fake dies can also be used to do this but most of the altered coins I have seen have been taken apart and altered from the back side then the coins put back together.

 

I'm still curious about the weight of this coin. Is it 2.5 grams or 3.11 grams? That would answer a lot of questions...

 

I'm think your scenario happened to this coin.

http://www.cointalk.com/t196800/

 

Rascal's scenario is complete nonsense.

 

Nope, and with the size and quality of the pic I don't think you or anybody else can either.
It's OK to say we don't know how a coin is faked because it really doesn't matter. If there's a 99.999% chance it couldn't have been struck that way at the mint then it's a 99.999% chance it's a fake. While it may be interesting to speculate how it's done, it's really not worth it to advance some theory that can't be proven just to make yourself look like an expert. Heck , I can say it was done with nanotechnology, prove me wrong.

 

I'm thinking if it's possible for coins to be taken apart and put back together again, then they would come with one of those "Warranty Void if Seal is Broken" stickers.