Decent Price on a Safe

http://www.ebay.com/itm/11x7x7-Keyp...ffice-Hotel-Security-Electronic-/140751291371

 

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I'll still take a fireproof gun case over it..

 

Nice little safe. I didnt see the weight on it though. I like a safe some guy cant carry to his car. But this is a nice little safe, wonder if you can bolt this one into something.

 

The description says it can be mounted to the floor or wall...

 

oh cool! 5 mintues and into my truck!


Got these at grants for guns for 500-600 bucks last month. Local gun store here in OC
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Large-Gun-Safe-60-x-40-x-27-Beautiful-Built-4-U-/110451575314?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19b76d4a12#ht_9103wt_1141

 

Nice safe. My dads isn't quite that big. All I have is a 14 gun safe, but it's mounted to the wall so...... Then again, the key tends to hang in the door, easier acsess if I see a whistle pig

 

Those are the worse safes anyone could buy, or think of buying.

They can easily be opened with a flathead screwdriver and hammer, they're very light and can easily be carted off. They're not fire-rated.

 

I agree with BU. With safes, there really isn't any substitute for mass and thick steel. You need to have a really heavy safe, mounted into the floor and wall preferably. Yes, its expensive and a PITA to get in, but that is the point. Btw, best place to put a safe, unless building a specialized space, is a basement closet. Having walls around the sides helps security immensely. Also, do not get electronic locks, they act up and all they really do is make the homeowner have to call locksmiths out. Get an old fashioned key or manual combination.

A friend of my sister's had a safe like this. The thief simply crowbarred it open. Thieves love these kind of safes, the homeowner did half their work and put their valuables in a nice small space just for them.

 

When buying a safe of any sort, be sure you know what protection it does and does not provide. It shouldn't be very surprising that a $45 safe provides less protection for less stuff than a $1250 safe.

While you should assume that the maker of the following video has a vested interest in selling you a higher-end safe, it does show a) the importance of installing a safe correctly, and b) how appearances can be deceiving.

[video=youtube;nBhOjWHbD6M]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBhOjWHbD6M[/video]

 

A 4mm thick front door??? LOL LOL LOL. One good jab with a crowbar, Mr. Burglar tucks under his arm, and See You Later. It "might" keep a 7 year old out of your coins.

But seriously folks. It might decoy a burglar. Dump a roll of State Quarters inside so it will rattle, put a drop of solder into the keyhole so it can't be opened on-site, and keep your coins in a real safe. I like the broad flat safe that fits in the bottom of a chest freezer. A REAL pita to get into, but what crook's going to spend time taking all that bass and venison out of the freezer; he doesn't even know it's there. Neither does the Mrs.

 

I wrestled with the notion of getting a safe. The idea of having to pay say $2000 for a good one and $400 to move it just made the whole thing impractical. I bought more coins with the money and got a larger sdb. Now I keep the vast majority of my coins in the bank and rotate a few out every couple months. The best safe in the world does no good when a gun is pointed at your head.

 

Do yourself a favor and spend a little money on a real safe from a reputable safe dealer or locksmith. They actually don't cost much more than a safe you can find at Costco or sporting goods stores and they'll last a lifetime.

As for the comment about a small safe possibly weighing enough that a person can't carry it off? I've read about thieves carrying off 800lb safes that were bolted to the wall. They wrench the safe side to side so they can figure out where it's bolted, then they use a sawzall to cut the studs behind the safe. Tip the safe on its side and then slide it out of the house and into a truck.

 

Might work if someone doesn't build a "safe trap". Build an area of weakness in the path where the thieves have to move a safe, (if they brought enough tools to even be able to do so), that the safe would collapse.

Bolting into concrete, then into walls, built into a closet so thieves cannot get access to the sides, then having a safe trap in the path, all lead to a pretty secure safe. Not perfect, but as good as a homeowner could hope for I believe.

I personally went with mill rat's thought, and rented the largest sdb they had.

 

Around Columbus, some of the banks can't give 10x10 sdb's away. As long as you're not a silver stacker, they're great for collectors with albums or cased sets or paper money, items with a low weight-volume ratio.

 

There are a lot of ways to help secure a safe in your house. IMO - The best is a combination of physical and electronic security. My safe is bolted to the floor AND two walls in a corner. One of the walls is a load bearing wall. I also have an electronic alarm system on my safe that I engineered, but I don't want to disclose any of the details on that. The whole benefit of a self engineered system is that a burglar will have no idea what to expect.

I have thought about getting a SDB, but I enjoy fiddling with my own safe too much. I'm thinking about getting another safe to put most of my guns in, and then gutting my current gun safe and transforming it into a document/coin safe. If I do, I'll be sure to post pics.

 

I've never bought a safe, i dont think i ever will. When we go on vacation we leave the keys in the truck, house unlocked, just in case the neighbor needs anything. But then again my closest neighbor is a mile away, and anyone who the neighbors dont know gets greated nicely at their car with a shotgun. Oh well.

 

add cameras good lights and a bad dog to that safe. If your dog kills the bad guys you really are not going to have a problem.

 

...only to find out after the fact that it was the Girl Scouts selling cookies. Oh well. That will teach them.

 

And if you DON'T buy cookies...

 

Funny, that's why I put the decoy goods in one just like this.