Question about Grey Sheet Bid/Ask price.

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by bama guy, Apr 11, 2010.

  1. slackaction1

    slackaction1 Supporter! Supporter

    OK, I am going to re-read the thread to get a better grasp, as you tell I am a newbie and have learned allot on this site, I see a few people referring to the grey sheet throughout this web site. I guess i will have to goggle it to find values on half dollar liberty depending on rare dates, conditions ect... the only thing as far as a common readable date was between 7.00 to 15.00 is that in the ball park or am I really off. thanks for negative or corrective criticisms you can give me.............
     
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  3. Bedford

    Bedford Lackey For Coin Junkies

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  4. rickmp

    rickmp Frequently flatulent.

    "I know there is a dealer mark but this coin is available and the dealer should be able to get it for you if they wanted to. Is this correct?"
    Not necessarily.

    It is correct only ​if an example of the coin is available for sale and your dealer actually knows where the example is.

     
  5. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    Doug is right--on ordinary coins, the margins are tight. For toners, all bets are off in terms of bid/ask. Same goes for exceptionally nice coins, and a lot of CAC coins...book goes out the window, and it is supply and demand.
     
  6. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

    Grey sheet Red Book Coin World and prices are not etched in stone.but do give buyer + Sellers a baseline price
    If auctioned it will sell for is basically is what the buyer's will pay.

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  7. buddy16cat

    buddy16cat Well-Known Member

    I would agree that supply and demand play a part. I know I tried to sell a couple buffalo nickels at were worth a couple bucks. He wouldn't even buy them because they don't move at his PM shop. On the other hand, one of the guys that worked there pulled out the junk Barber halves to show me and used the gray sheet. I said "those are worth melt". He said, "they are worth what I say they are worth" and I simply told him to take them away. Maybe the gray sheet said that these common date, AG/G halves are worth more but most wouldn't pay that for them. On the other hand, I am sure people pay more than graysheet when there is a demand. I am wondering about what graysheet is for a very common, VF Barber dime. I bought one that was cleaned and took it back because people said I overpaid.
     
  8. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    One thing buddy, Grey Sheet prices only apply to problem free coins.
     
  9. buddy16cat

    buddy16cat Well-Known Member

    What would be the guide for a problem coin that sellers still want? For instance, many will still buy harshly cleaned pre-civil war coins because the issue is that many coins that old have been cleaned, noticeably or not. Even some cleaned coins make it into slabs without the details. But for 20th century coins, I'll pay spot for silver coins that were harshly cleaned. When I use that term I consider that to be trying to alter the coins surface and not remove grit and dirt with acetone, alcohol, or distilled water. I would think maybe downgrading the coin. If it was F/VF downgrade it to G.
     
  10. CoinCast

    CoinCast Member

    They are all guides and meant to be used as such. The only true firm pricing is from auctions as those are true transactions. I have never heard Ask priced used for anything really as retail is much higher most of the time.
     
  11. buddy16cat

    buddy16cat Well-Known Member

    As I mentioned, I was buying coins at a PM shop and he was even using it on junk and problem coins in the bins. On the other hand, this shop is less expensive than this other shop I visited on everything so they all can't be using gray sheet on everything.
     
  12. buddy16cat

    buddy16cat Well-Known Member

    This is probably true but from what I seen it doesn't stop people from using it on it. I know this one guy pulled out a bunch of Barber halves from the junk bins with obvious problems and was consulting his gray sheet for prices. They were beat up and ugly.
     
  13. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    There is no guide for problem coins - none. Best rule of thumb I can give you is that a problem coin is worth anywhere from 20% to 80% of what a problem free example is worth.

    The reason there is no guide is because there are way too many variables involved. First you have the type of damage or problem, and there are many different types of damage/problems. Then you have the severity of that damage/problem to consider, that alone is nearly an infinite range.
     
  14. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Well there is no accounting for what some people will do. And usually what they do is because they don't know any better. Or, they simply don't know what else TO do. But that never means that they should be doing it.
     
  15. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

    I would widen that range to 10%-90%. I've seen quite a few NGC/PCGS body baggers at my local dealer that I'd gladly pay 90% of CDN for......then again, we both agreed the "problem" was manufactured at the TPG. LOL

    On the flip side, I've seen many problem coins that I'd BARELY pay 10% of CDN for.....and that's only if I was extremely desparate! I really, really hate buying ANY coin with problems.
     
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