Large Cent R5+ Success!

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Marshall, Jul 19, 2012.

  1. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    I'm breaking out of a very long slump wherein I was repeatedly sniped in my attempts to add to my collection of R5 Varieties. Last week, I purchased an attributed S-183, my third lifetime and second at this time. I posted a question which drew little interest.

    I just got this tonight. It has a small hole which probably helped keep most collectors from giving it a second look. But it is my second S-142 and about $150 cheaper than my last. It is the rarer of two varieties which use the same obverse and is the first use of the second style of lettering. The other is a stemless reverse and draws more attention and interest.

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    Each of these are estimated to have 31-45 known surviving examples. There have been 9 sales of this variety in their history. As I was telling a rookie on another thread, rarity isn't everything when it comes to value, but I like it.
     
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  3. Marshall

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  4. Doug21

    Doug21 Coin Hoarder

    That is the largest "hole" I've ever seen in a coin !
     
  5. bkozak33

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  6. beef1020

    beef1020 Junior Member

    Very nice cherry picks.
     
  7. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    Nice pickup Marshall.
     
  8. kookoox10

    kookoox10 ANA #3168546

    You have a good eye for the R5's, I find the photos on eBay are too far gone or the lighting is bad. Congratulations on the recent addition Marshall.
     
  9. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    congrats on the R-5
     
  10. Eduard

    Eduard Supporter**

    Nice catch Marshall. Always nice to pick up an R5+.
    (R5+ is only a few steps away from NC).

    Haven't done too many like that, but I was thrilled when I was able to pick up this S-124 not long ago.
     

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  11. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    Excellent pickup. Nice surfaces and honest wear.
     
  12. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    This is a tough one in lower grades since the only difference I can see between the S-124 and the common S-138 is the denominator spacing. Both obverses appear nearly the same in low grades as well. I either missed this one or was bidding against you.

    Again, congratulations on the pickup.
     
  13. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

    :thumb:Nice one too!!!
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  14. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    Congrats, Marshall! :)
     
  15. Eduard

    Eduard Supporter**

    I don't have my Breen right now with me (I am 9000 miles away from home), but if I remember correctly there are two features which distinguish the common S-138 from the rare 124.
    One of them is the placement of the leaves below the "M" in America. Interestingly, the recent 2012 EAC auction had two 124's for sale (I think, however, this one is at least as good, or
    better than those - so I'm happy).
     
  16. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Marshall, what did you make of what appears to be a major die crack from the rim through the E on that piece? It sure LOOKS like a heavy die crack but I can't find any references to a 1796 DB with such a crack in any die state.
     
  17. 93stang

    93stang Member

    I'm working on getting one myself, congrats
     
  18. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    "One of them is the placement of the leaves below the "M" in America.

    These distinguish the two from other 1797s, but are almost identical to each other. The only other distinguishing item I can find is a slightly different spacing at the bottom of RI with the S-124 being more distant and the S-138 closer together.
     
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  20. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    I immediately looked for that very thing and found no prior reference to such a crack either. I think it needs to be seen in hand to verify it's a crack and not PMD. But it could very well be a new terminal die state since there is no subsequent pairing of the reverse. I wish I had bid higher now. Too bad the break above STATES OF can't be seen due to wear and damage. Maybe this break was the final straw leading to it's replacement.
     
  21. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    It you have used the leaf below M to get you down to S-124 or 138 look at the position of the gap between the ends of the wearth compared to the serif of the S. On 124 the gap is below the serif of the S. On the 138 it is below the gap between the ES.
     
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