I am in the process of catalogging my Grandfather's coin collection (long story, I'll tell it sometime in the CoinChat page) and I came across the following coin. He has written KM# 377.13 on the holder (which I expect to be correct, but not having Krause I can't confirm it). I believe it to be an 1891 Zs 8 reales, but I would like more info. First does it look genuine? Then what is the mintage, silver fineness and ASW, and what does "Zs" stand for? It appears to be AU (and quite lustrous) with serious scratches on the eagle side (is that the obv or rev?) from the 10 o'clock position to the center. Based on that and the pics what is it worth?
Well, the (8R) 377.13 is listed at $65 in Unc. The Zs has something to do with the mint Zacatecas. Take Care Ben
mintage: 4,114,000 0.9030 silver .7859 oz. ASW weight: 27.0700 g. Now you need the "does it look genuine?" answer...
In the cases of preserving the coin, couldn't you weigh a 2x2 and then subtract it from the coin and 2x2 weight?
Yeah, if,( a big word that ), the 2x2 is of the same thickness and weight, the staples are of the same gauge and weight and the mylar is of the same gauge and weight. Bottom line - take it out and weigh it. Looks like the real deal CT, because of those scratches. They look like adjustment marks to me. But I'd weight it anyway - just to be sure
Here is something to compare http://cgi.ebay.com/Rare-Zs-1891-FZ...goryZ541QQssPageNameZWD1VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
The extra marks on the fields of the coin I posted above appear to be "chop marks" so I am assuming that this is a mexican "trade dollar" type of coin. CT, sure looks like a nice coin to me. If your grandfather labeled it with the correct Krause #, I suspect he would have noticed if it appeared any out of the normal. Maybe the start of your Mexican collection.
Just bear in mind that this seller is a known purveyor of so-called "Tibet silver" copies of Asian silver crowns.
It looks very similar to the 8 reales pictures in the North American Coins and Prices guide that I have. However, they have pictures of the 377, the 377.12, the 377.11, the 377.1 and the 377.2; but not the 377.13. Each one appears just slightly different. The diagonal lines across the wing and breast look a little odd. Nice coin to own.
Thanks for the info! That is far from my collecting areas, but I will make a note. I do have a few on my list . Asian silver crowns~~ I think I have one old time asian silver crown, Japanese Yen from 1910? era ? from a probate sale about 25 years ago. Wonder where it is???
posted twice for emphasis, I see Actually, that coin isn't the same condition am mine, especially if the scratches on mine are mint-made and not damage, per se.
awww, too bad, you (or Roy) must have removed the double post...I thought the emphasis was appropriate in that situation, lol! by the way, is my estimation of the grade (at AU) accurate? If not, what is your opinion?
