Need assistance identifying possible 614, SaxonyJohn George & Augustus. Silver Thaler

Hey everyone, I'm having a hard time identifying this coin. I believe it to be what I said in the topic title but if you check the other pictures from other sources the sword falls on the "m" whereas this one doesn't. In the 1612 version of this coin I see it falling on the dot afterward. The mint mark is on the coin as well. Thanks. : these pictures were taken with a very decent camera so click and zoom in if needed.

 

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this is a coin i found while trying to find out about mine , see where the sword lands on the front side?

 

You are correct in your attribution to Johann Ernst and August of the Albertine branch of Saxony. Both images you posted catalog the same the position of the M is merely a variety. The dies were individually engraved, not mass produced in the manner of modern dies, so minor varieties like that are common.

 

1614, Saxony John Georg & Augustus. Silver Thaler

what would this coin be worth by chance? they were individually cast

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I don't know much about these, but my first thought is whether this is authentic. Looks a tad funny to me, but if they were cast when made (which I'm not sure of either), then that might be the reason. Did you get this coin from a reputable source?

 

They weren't cast, they were struck. Furikazashi's specimen looks real, although fakes of these issues are common. More pictures are always welcome !

Presuming that it's real, and it hasn't been mounted in the past (check the edge for solder), it would be worth about $400. I'm researching these at the moment, and there are a lot of minor die varieties (placement of letters etc.). I've seen examples with that placement before, and it's certainly less common than the other type, but unfortunately no more valuable.