Can someone tell me what these marks are? They don't look like dug in scratches, but rather like die cracks...but they go completely around the outer edge of the coin on both sides of the coin. Here are pics.
I tried looking up "intentional die scratches" but didn't get any really good results from google. Can you please explain or give me a link as to what that is and how it occurs? Thanks!
When the mint used to dispose of dies they would intentiinally damage them I've only seen it on one other coin and it was much more severe than this. If you search on here I'm sure you can find the post. I believe rascal posted it.
To me it looks like old scratches. I have a 1909 S VDB that is scratched similar to this. Of course with out it hand I would just be guessing.
I was thinking scratches too but I was being hopeful lol Search rascal and the thread title was check out this 1958 cent
It's possible to scratch a coin and have the scratched metal appear to be a die crack. My thoughts are that this is one example of that phenomenon.
That coin that I showed on here turned out to older scratches that someone had did on the coin. The person on Ebay was kind enough to offer me a money back refund before I bid on the coin. after I received the coin it was kind of easy to tell it was only cut places on it , I sent it back to it's owner. these older deep scratches looks really close to die gouges after the cut places fills back in with the coin's metal and dirt from bring in circulation. the op's coin in this thread appears to also be just damaged by something sharp and the metal is probably raised up because something sharp cut into it and under the surface pushing the surface up. that Ebay coin I showed on here would have been one heck of a coin if it had been from a coin die that someone had damaged. now days the mint workers grinds off most if not all of the details of the dies when they are disposed of.
Is there any way, like submittiing it to someone who is an "expert" who could give me a definitive answer because the pictures aren't really as clear as as they should be (my camera sux). Or is there anything I can do with it other than stash it in a drawer somewhere? Not that I doubt you guys, I appreciate your opinions, thanks! But I would just like to know for certain, if that's possible.
find a box cutter and get a old copper cent that has no value other than a few cents and make some cut places on the old coin. then rub your fingers over the cut places to fill them back in a little , then examine the damaged areas and you can soon learn how to tell what a cut place on a coin looks like. be careful and don't get cut . learning on your own is the best way to learn things. usually under high magnifaction a super thin line can be seen in the center of a cut place , when copper or other soft metal is cut with a thin blade it will swell up on both sides of the cut line and after a little bit of use the cut place will fill back in. under close inspection the line should be visible somewhere. I hope this info. helps someone .
LOL Me and sharp objects, knives especially, really don't mix too well...haha, but I'll try it, gimme a day or 2 and I'll post pics of the cut penny and my cut finger ....lol!
Well in that case stay away from the sharp knives. that would be a bad image of your cut finger and the cut penny. I use tools everyday and keep forgetting that others don't. LOL
A lot of the "experts" you are looking for are members here. Since there is a consensus that your coin is PMD, it's a pretty good bet that that's exactly what it is. For the record, I'm going with scratches on the coin.
