One would think there would be something more universal. This standard in particular seems surprisingly low for the "best" TPG.
For a comparison here is a PCGS MS65FB designated dime. Personally I think the bands aren't as full as the NGC example and from what I've heard, NGC is tougher to get FB than PCGS.
Designations PCGS assigns the following attributes where appropriate: Full Band (FB) - Mercury Head Dimes – the central bands on the fasces on the reverse should be completely separated from left to right, without any breaks, marks or gaps. Note: PCGS may designate in grades of 60 and higher.
An attribution is an identification as in identifying a particular type or variety. Typically an attribution is objective and verifiable. A designation is usually more opinion based and usually relates more to appearance, color, or quality of strike. A designation tends to be more subjective, I say this is fullbands someone else says it isn't. Different people or groups can have different standards for the same designation.
I just want to make this point again. The break in the middle band to the right is PART of the DESIGN.
This is one of those instances where it is critical to know which TPG is harder on a specific series. As you can see, NGC is clearly harder on Mercury Dimes. But, there are some series's that PCGS is more critical with than NGC. So, it's important to now that. But remember, if the middle set of bands is full...the others SHOULD be full as well. PCGS assumes they are. This is because the middle bands are the highest posts and thus is the first area to show a weakened strike.
Crop a pic and circle what you're talking about Ruben so I know for sure exactly what you are talking about. But there is no break in the middle band that is supposed to be there.
What it means is that NGC is more strict when it comes to determining if a coin is FB or not. So, any coin that NGC says is FB should also be if it were slabbed by PCGS...however, a PCGS slabbed FB coin may not meet NGC FB standards. But then again, in theory...if the middle bands are full all the bands should be because they are the highest point where strike weakness would first be evident. Since FB is an indication of strike quality...then a full set of middle bands should be enough. This doesn't take into account any possible dings that may have occurred.
Thank you, now I know what you are talking about and understand. This is the coin in question that started this thread - This is what it is supposed to look like - See the difference ? A bit of a misunderstanding because of terminology really. What you are calling a break, and what I am calling a break, are not the same thing. What you are referring to is the separation of the banding wrapping the fasces together near the end of the top band - yes, that is supposed to be there. What I call a break is when something that is supposed to be there is missing. As I said, look at the 2 pics I posted and you will see the difference. The first pic has something missing - a break.
The same is true with the FBL designation on Franklin halves. NGC looks at both sets of lines, PCGS only the bottom set.