Opinions on this 1913 Type 1 Buff

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by mikem2000, Jul 5, 2012.

  1. mikem2000

    mikem2000 Lost Cause

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  3. Kirkuleez

    Kirkuleez 80 proof

    That is a beautiful coin. And I can tell you from personal experience that the seller is great to deal with. My avatar coin came from him. $850 is a good offer, good luck.
     
  4. mikem2000

    mikem2000 Lost Cause

    Thank you for your input :)

    Mike
     
  5. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    Here is the coin on Heritage. Talk about a difference in pictures. Confusing to me looking at the two sets of pictures. The serial number seems to be the same, but with it being a 67 I lean towards the luster in the Ebay auction. I think for a 67 I would want a better struck example that what heritage shows. Just my opinion and like I said it is confusing to me when looking at the two sets of pictures.
     
  6. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

  7. mikem2000

    mikem2000 Lost Cause

    Thanks Mark,

    I agree with you on the strike, and I think I can find a better example.

    Mike
     
  8. mikem2000

    mikem2000 Lost Cause


    Dowse away Reuben,

    That is why I asked :)

    I have already replied to Mark's post and decided to look for a better example.

    Mike
     
  9. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    Sorry, but your pictures do not show the luster that may be present - remember at times with tpgs(and I am not saying they are right) luster rules. To me you can have some weakly struck buffalos with this blazing luster that hides the weak strike. So grading these in the 66 and 67 range is hard if you can't see the luster. Thats why (on the original coin) the luster rules - but I also believe a well struck or fully struck type one can be found. Of course this is just my opinion.
     
  10. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    If the coin is struck well, by traditional standards it won't have luster. It has that carved, almost matted look on a type I.
     
  11. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

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    So those dots and curves in the fields of this obverse. That is not wear, it is design :)
     
  12. USMoneylover

    USMoneylover Active Member

    How would you grade this buff?
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  13. KoinJester

    KoinJester Well-Known Member

  14. brg5658

    brg5658 Well-Known Member

    If you could take better pictures, I'd offer up a grade. Based on what I'm seeing in the current images, I'd say MS65, and that's being generous.
     
  15. areich

    areich America*s Darling

    What? Anything can happen here.
     
  16. brg5658

    brg5658 Well-Known Member

    Firstly, this thread isn't about MrBrooklyn's coin...the OP was asking about a specific coin on eBay. It was hijacked by him to link to his poor quality photos. Secondly, I promise you (and I'd be willing to put money on it) that if the coin MrBrooklyn linked to was sent to PCGS it would come back in an MS65 or lower holder.

    So I'm not sure I understand what your comment is supposed to accomplish or what point it is supposed to make?

    That's all....carry on...
     
  17. areich

    areich America*s Darling

    Anything can and does happen here, and it takes all kinds of people to make this great country of ours.
     
  18. jom

    jom Well-Known Member

    It is really hard to tell from that photo. It could very well be AU since the rim has some small dings. The light washes out the Buff's upper leg so I can't see whether the flatness from circulation has set in yet....

    jom
     
  19. areich

    areich America*s Darling

    Well, I like the picture and think it has great detail. As for its grade, I don't know anything about grading. From the original post, I don't think Ruben thinks it is a high MS graded coin.
     
  20. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    Did you have problems following the conversation? I can explain it in as much simplification of words as needed someone to explain it if you need it. Although, I also have to admit, this is an open forum, and I'll post pretty much what I want, and if you think it breaks the rules, you know the procedure.

    Ruben
     
  21. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    Well, this is a lot uglier picture but if you insist.

    http://www.mrbrklyn.com/coins/buffalo/dsc00209.jpg
     
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