Will All Albums Cause Toning

I'm trying to organize my coin collection and define my collecting goals. I personally greatly prefer albums because I love being able to flip through the coins and look at the in that manner. I have always loved Dansco albums but I know they can tone coins...especially silver coins. Is there any album that doesn't do this. For instance, one set I am considering would be a BU raw Franklin Half set. I'd love to do that in a Dansco album but I'm afraid that over time the coins will turn in the album. I believe I would be far safer with the coins in airtites. But, I find airtities annoying because each coin is "loose." I have seen people put airtites in 2x2s and put them in pages, but I think that looks bad and is impossible for larger coins.

I just feel there is no way to store coins that looks nice, protects them, and is convenient.

 

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My Franklins are in 2x2s, in a 20 coin page and three ring binder.

 

I believe there isn't any album that will stop it. I think the toning that does occur is due to the environmental conditions more than it is to the modern albums. Air-tites, slabs, 2x2 flips, etc...will certainly slow the process down, but none of them can stop it if the air/moisture/heat conditions promote toning.

 

Dancso also has a professional line of archival slip cases that their albums slide into. They're treated with something called Silver-Guard Inhibiting Protection. I'm not sure what this treatment is, but it was developed by Daubert Cromwell Inc for Dansco. You could probably "google'' it for more information. Obviously this works for silver coins and not copper. I believe they are rated for 100 year protection. They are replaceable when the time comes, if they are still in business then.

 

There is no truly archival album on the market aside from the air-tite albums which nobody seems to like. You need to join our movement. We need ideas from everyone on how to make the prefect album.
http://www.cointalk.com/t208804/

 

The only kind of album I can think of that would be truly archival (doesn't exist as far as I know) would be similar to a Dansco but have hard plastic pages rather than cardboard.

 

I use Air Tite albums' they can be little expensive thou and plastic pockets can rip apart with heavy use.

 

If the coins are going to stay in the protection for a while, I would recommend "cointain" shells. They fit the coin so tightly, that they might fit any album with a very slight enlargement of the "hole". Old ANACs ( before the slabs) would put high grde coins like my 55/55 DD in cointains. I didn't notice it for weeks since it was so tight. Hard to open so don't use one on a coin you are going to take out often. Many places sell them, here is one showing them. They are inert to metals, as airtight as an air tite, I am sure.
http://www.oldmint.com/cointains.htm

Jim

 

Eagle Holders makes a molded page that will hold air-tite holders.
I use them for the modern commemorative half dollars.
They make one with larger pockets that works well with silver eagles.

Image from their site. https://www.eaglecoinholders.com/osCommerce/catalog/images/encapsulated.jpg

 

Toning is a very natural chemical reaction, that involves oxidation, and is hard to prevent, unless the coins themselves are in an airtight, climate controlled environment. Albums definitely enhance toning, both due to the exposure to air (humid air particularly accelerates oxidation), and the chemicals in the album paper/cardboard accelerate this reaction.

 

Do these pages come individually or do they only come in their albums? One problem I have is their website photos are terrible...you really can't see the product.

 

You can buy just the pages. Their images are really bad.

 

From experience, coins can definitely tone in Dansco albums... and it doesn't take decades either. Sometimes the results can improve the look of a coin, but not always... sometimes the toning can be very ugly. Also from experience, it appears that the so-called anti-corrosion slipcases for the Dansco albums do not work as advertised.

 

anybody know if Intercept shield albums work? and they have slipcases too. read some good write-ups but they might have been biased. maybe they haven't been around long enough to know?

 

Do you have photos of the pages? I'd be interested in seeing a decent image. Also, do you like them?

 

I'd be interested to see a decent image of them as well, searching ebay, and other coin supply sites, I see nothing, and am looking for the same thing in an album as the Dr.

 

Just found this on another forum, he said they're eagle brand folders

 

Oh interesting, I really like those. What size airtities do they hold?

 

They do make 12 pocket pages that accommodate 2.5 x 2.5 fold over window type pages for binders.
Airtites do fit snug in half dollar size 2x2's, for half dollar size coins in Airtites, I use either safe flips or dollar size 2 x 2's or 2.5 x 2.5's.
My Franklins and Buffalo nickels are in this situation. In safe flips and 2 x 2's in Airtites in a three ring binder.
They don't slide around but if I really wanted to look at the reverses in these sets as I page through,
I could remove the paper insert in the flips and put in another page directly below or behind the page holding the coins on the top page.





I am not a fan of Dansco or Whitman albums, to each his/her own, but I think cardboard attracts moisture and that affects the coins.
The humidity where I live can be harmful even though I use a safe and those Moisture Absorbing Desiccants things.
One thing I can't stand is moisture damage, I don't mind toning but I think Airtites prohibit both.

 

Cool. Thanks for posting the image. They make these for half dollars, silver eagles and one that is almost the same for slabs. Been using them for years and love them.

I have my commemorative dollar and half sets in them as well. Makes for a really cool looking display. It's great being able to leave comm's and ASE in the mint capsules. Air-tites match the mint capsules really well so they can be mixes on the same page. That lets me put the comm. unc half dollars in air-tites and display them beside the proofs.

The only negative thing is how heavy the pages get when full. I have broken a few dollar and slab pages by not being careful.