I want a premium album

I am getting tired of my coins changing colors. Don't get me wrong, I love toned coins. But when I spend many years putting a red 2 cent proof collection together, I want it to stay that way. I prefer albums to slabs and normally buy raw coins or crack out any slabs that I get. I don't crack out coppers because they will never stay red for very long in any album currently made.

Many of my collections are now in Dansco albums and for the most part I like them. But with so much money in certain collections, it just feels wrong to put these coins in albums that can cause damage by sliding sharp plastic over the coins or allowing so much air and humidity to contact the coins . I don't much care for the air-tite albums either, they are just plain ugly but offer nice protection. I am seriously considering combining the two so that I can have what I want, a truly archival premium coin album. Some sort of hybrid like a Dansco with air-tite holders. And for the really nice sets, leather bound with gold foil. Does anyone know where I can get something like this or should I just get to making my own albums.

I'm just shocked that nothing like this is available. I have seen hundred thousand dollar collections in a cardboard book and I feel sorry far the coins. They deserve to be treated better.

 

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It would be cool if there was an album like that.. I'd suggest maybe using the 2x2 plastic snap cases and just put them in a binder with pages. It's not really what you're looking, and you probably already thought about it, but I would feel safer with my coins in there than in a whitman or other brand folder.

 

I still do a double take every time I see your avatar pballer, That's not a bad idea, but it doesn't really have the presentation factor I want.

 

I would love to see Capital Plastics to make pages. That'd be cool.

 

no way would I put proof 2 cent pieces in any kind of album, or MS 19th century type coins, leave them slabbed, toss the album.

albums are more for circulated coins.

 

Circulated coins in a collection? Never...

I like to collect an entire series of proof coins. For silver and nickle coins I crack out whatever coins that I can not find raw and put them in Dansco albums. But for coppers, I leave them in a slab or put them in air-tites. I just prefer to have the coins in an album. I wish there was a better way of protecting the coppers, but for now, I have to live with an unorganized pile of slabs and air-tites.

Most of my older sets have proofs for the Philadelphia issues and MS (well business strike) for the branch mints. This is a practice that my Great-Great Grandfather started way back when so I keep it going the same way. I try not to put any circulated coins in my family collection, but sometimes, AU is the best coin that I can get without breaking the bank.

 

What about the Intercept Shield albums? They have them here, too. I don't use albums, but I think they're made the same as the Dansco's, just lined with stuff that removes junk from the air that'll turn your coins colors.

Edit: One thing that I've done in the past with my 2x2's that mmmight work with albums, is measure the millimeter size of your airtites, then buy blank album pages that match them and put the airtites in those pages? I had a 13mm coin that I couldn't find a Lighthouse 2x2 holder for, so I took a 13mm Airtite, measured the size (31mm), and then stuck the coin and half of the Airtite in the plastic 31mm Lighthouse 2x2. It actually looks pretty nice, and it might work for your albums, provided you can find blank pages in the right size. Like I said, I don't use albums so I don't know if there's an issue with the thickness of the Airtites or what.

 

You must be a multi-millionaire if you stuff like 2 cent coins in proof.

No way would I crack those deuces out to put them in an album.

Was your GG-Grandfather named eliasburg ?

 

That is what Intercept Shield claims. I'm just not convinced that they follow through with the quality they claim. They are made in China. Consider the pet food problems, led in kids toys, oh, and counterfeit coins. I have also worked closely with a friend who tried to have manufacturing done in China. He even shipped them the chemical additives needed for the job, (a fire retardant) but they added them in at way under the rate they should have, less than 10%, so the product was useless.
Add to this that the holes in the albums are not always sized well. I tried 3 of their albums. I had to shave some of the holes in the type set to get coins to fit. The state quarter holes were so badly over-sized that they actually rattled.
Its a great idea if it was done well. I just don't see the proof in the pudding. I don't like them or trust them.

I don't

 

What about getting a Dansco for larger coins and putting air tites in the holes? An example (without looking up specific measurements) is getting a blank Dansco Half dollar album. Then put your proof IHCs in air tites with black rings, then put those air tites in the half holes. It's probably a close fit. Some larger air tites (nickel, quarter, maybe 2 cent) probably fit well in the dollar holes in Dansco albums.

EDIT: Also, putting your Dansco in a slipcase should help, I think, with toning and such.

 

Now that is a great idea Lon, I hadn't thought of that.

 

How about Dansco pages that would hold slabs?





(Actually I made some for myself but they didn't work out for me. I wanted to house both regular sized slabs and the large 5-coin slabs in the Dansco binder).

 

I use coin slab binder pages and they work wonderfully and provide great protection.



-LTB

 

I love albums too. Can't stand flips, slabs, 2x2s, folders, etc...
I would love to see a hybrid of an album and air-tites. Pages like the album, but each hole with it's own encapsulation, instead of slides.
There are ultra thin capsules of inert clear material that seem like they would be perfect. Kointainers??? Is that the brand I am thinking of? They are so slim that you can hold the coin and almost not see it on the coin.

 

Where's the fun in collecting coins that haven't circulated? What stories can an uncirculated coin tell?

Uncirculated coins have no personality.

 

Yeah they do.
Think about that uncirculated coin from the 1850s, for example... Someone way back then thought enough of that coin to save it, protect it, and pass it along to someone else who did the same. This process went on for 162 years to get that coin to you today. There is plenty of history in that process.

 

I'm not impressed. If a coin sits untouched for 162 years, all that means is that it sat around doing nothing for 162 years. Maybe a few collectors admired it in that time. Yawn.

I'd take a nicely toned, slick Morgan over a Morgan that sat in a vault for a century any day.

 

Dittos. I've had the exact same thought. Who wants to start a company and make these things? I'll pitch in but I like doing things with a couple of good heads, not just mine alone. Need people who are good with chemistry, plastics, accounting, Ad/Marketing, sales, know coins and the coin business, in other words, a team. One of the most successful businesses I've ever seen started with 40 guys who had something in common and with all that input, the result was a company that was out of the red and in the black IN 3 MONTHS from opening day! Who's in?

While we are at it, give Intercept Shield folks a run for their money with GOOD protective material. There also needs to be better storage boxes for the new size unc. Mint sets. and how about boxes for Prestige sets, other sizes. and the list goes on.

Lets put something together and put some people to work and make some really nice products and make some money too.

This is a serious offer. PM me. or just put it out here on the thread.

 

Well I have been considering doing it for some years now, but just for my personal collection. I'm sure that if others like them, we could sell them. There is a catch though. The cost to produce would be about $230 each. We would have to sell for about $400 per album to make it worth the effort at all. I have actually done quite a bit of pricing on this idea because I have never been satisfied with current options.
This price is for an over the top premium album with gold foiled leather binding and pages with air-tites. I'm sure that a high quality album could be done considerably cheaper, but it would be in the $90 range to produce at minimum. For me, it is worth the cost, but it may be tough to produce these albums in a price range that would make sense to the average collector.

I was considering doing a US type set album for my collection first. This may be the best album to concentrate on if they were for sale.

 

I'm not too sure on this, but maybe the airtites will fit right into half dollar holes. I heard of people using them on other coins, but not sure on 2c pieces.