How do I get a job with NGC/PCGS

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by JCB1983, Jun 19, 2012.

  1. JCB1983

    JCB1983 Learning

    I feel as though I have a natural gift at grading coins. I don't know really how to explain it but I can usually just look at a coin and know the grade within a matter of seconds. Another thing is that I do not ever use a loop. The only coins I am having complete accuracy on are gold coins. For the last year straight I have done nothing but looked at coins. Thousands a day. Scanning eBay or examining numismatics in hand on the job, I feel like I am ready to become a professional grader. So how could I best capitalize on this? Through Julien Leidman I was able to contact Don Willis and he suggested attending the ANA summer seminars. Unfortunatly I did not sign up for the grading classes in time. I've thought about entering contests at major shows. I'm confident that I can oneday be a grader for NGC/PCGS but am just not sure how to get there. Where should I go from here?

    Thanks,
    ~Jason
     
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  3. Listen to Don, and wait until next year to sign up for the seminars. I have a hard time believing any company would take you seriously without those classes.
     
  4. TheCoinGeezer

    TheCoinGeezer Senex Bombulum

    Must ... resist... temptation....
     
  5. Vess1

    Vess1 CT SP VIP Supporter

    You're not allowed to be a collector of coins if you work for them. Were you aware of that rule?
     
  6. Kirkuleez

    Kirkuleez 80 proof

    There is plenty more to learn than just grading. Counterfeit detection and variety attribution to name a couple. It really is a highly specialized field, but NCS maybe an easier way in the door. I don't want to scare you away, I just want you to know what you are in for. But really, the Summer seminar is the first step. Good luck.
     
  7. Kirkuleez

    Kirkuleez 80 proof

    You are allowed to collect, just not commercially trade coins.
     
  8. cmilladoo

    cmilladoo Keepin it Real

    there is absolutely no way they could enforce that rule.....and if you tell me that you think that all the people who grade coins for a living there don't collect coins at all I would say you are kidding yourself....just sayin
     
  9. You should talk to or PM Mike (illini420). He is a member of CT and won the 2012 PCGS coin grading contest and scored an MS65 Saint Gaudens gold coin for his outstanding grading skills. Congrats Mike! TC
     
  10. omahaorange

    omahaorange Active Member

    I'm with you on that.
     
  11. Cherd

    Cherd Junior Member

    If you are good at grading coins then you should start your own business, you could call it "JCB's Coin Pre-screening Service". You could have people send you coins and charge them $10 to determine what the coin will grade when submitted. They can then decide whether the submission fee is worthwhile. You could even submit the coins to the TPG for them and pass on the bulk submission savings, which would make cost of your service even cheaper.

    But if you do apply for a job with a TPG, be sure to tell them that you have 717 Likes at Cointalk. That'll definitely carry some weight!
     
  12. oval_man

    oval_man Elliptical member

    I realize this is third-person info, but a collecting friend of mine attended the ANA grading seminar last year and met some graders. The impression he got was that it's a real sweat-shop environment, which is apparently why they have a high turnover rate of graders. If you're serious about pursuing this, it's worth asking: do you really want to grade coins all day in a pressure environment, week after week, month after month?
     
  13. fretboard

    fretboard Defender of Old Coinage!

    Take the course, it's a really good investment in yourself and a very good way to network. :thumb:
     
  14. elijahhenry10

    elijahhenry10 New Member

    Does anyone know the price of the course? Just wondering......
     
  15. AdamL

    AdamL Well-Known Member

    Dude.
     
  16. ML94539

    ML94539 Senior Member

    Ask Mark Feld, he was a NGC grader, and member of this forum
     
  17. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    I have seen friends of mine go from novice to NGC grader in 3 years. He however spent those 3 years on the show circuit working for a "master grader" and mentor. He groomed him into a grader... This however is not the usual... I would say that it would take a minimum of 10 years of normal show experience to even get a shot... It's all about who you know.
     
  18. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    You might also want to contact PCGS and NGC to see what they recommend for experience to qualify for one of their job openings.
     
  19. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    Then Hall would be a hypocrite, would he not?
     
  20. And on another note, why would you want to grade thousands of ASE's a day. You know you aren't going to grade classic gold if you so happen to get hired.
     
  21. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Maybe you can. But how confident are you that that day is here ?

    You go apply for the job. They will test you, if you pass you've got a chance.

    Several years ago another CT member asked that exact question. I told him the same thing I'm telling you. He got the job as a grader for PCGS.
     
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