1974 S rpm

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by fishaddicit, Apr 26, 2009.

  1. fishaddicit

    fishaddicit Senior Member

    OK if it is not an RPM could I please have an educated and detailed reason why. And please don't say "because it's not on coppercoins" there was a time when nothing was on his sight. I'm not trying to sound rude so please take no offense. It just seems that it is more defined then some other RPM's I've seen before.
     

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  3. rockdude

    rockdude Coin Collector

    Well it may not be on coppercoins list but their is a number for the 1970S1MM-001 and yours is not the one. Also yours looks like Machine Doubling.
    Here's what it looks like;

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  4. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    Fishaddict,
    To be sure either way, a sharper (more focused) photo is needed. It is large enough, but does seem to be a little out of focus. My monitor/eyesight isn't good enough to see if the MM extension you are referring to is flattened or rounded, etc.

    The date does appear to have flattened extensions of MD, and it is possible on dates before 1990 to have MD and RPM, but it does tend to lead one to think the mint mark is MD also until shown not.

    Maybe your loupe shows better than your camera, so look to see if the extensions of it appear to be rounded like the photo of the 1970 S/S that rockdude shows. If so, then it could be a RPM , if not then most likely MD.

    Jim
     
  5. rockdude

    rockdude Coin Collector

    Wow I made a booboo. I have a picture of the 1970 'S' mint mark, sorry. It's not yours because it is a 1970 and yours is a '74. I got my forums mixed up.[​IMG]
     
  6. fishaddicit

    fishaddicit Senior Member

    I let it pass.:goofer: How can a MM be MD if it is stamped by hand?

    And I'm working on a better focused pic.
     
  7. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    If when the mintmark is struck by hand, any strike of the MM after the first that is not right on will cause a RPM into the working die.

    If the MM strikes all line up, the mintmark will appear as a single entity on the working die.

    They are put on the working die before striking the coins.

    Then if this working die isn't completely secure in the press and moves slightly during striking coins, MD occurs. So MD could occur with a RPM die or with a normal MM die.:smile

    Jim
     
  8. fishaddicit

    fishaddicit Senior Member

    Thanks Jim for the explanation. Here is a few more pictures to check out.
     

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  9. 3N1GM4

    3N1GM4 New Member

    I think I may have found this coins big brother today in some pocket change under light and magnification mine has 3 very pronounced curves at the top left and the bottom left has at least two clear corners... I will post pics as soon as I can get it to a better copy machine, mine is a fossil, in the meantime does the poster of this or anyone else know of any s/s/s/?s? 1974s I cant wait to see the scanned photos of it, the extra curves on the s and the few other 1974 s errors I have seen posts on here about have intrigued me?
     
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